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gabbe
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 Posted - 2006/10/30 : 15:14:17
Hey guys... I have found a store here in (now cold) Sweden that sells dj-equipment... Not so much things, but, enough i think..
How many EQ-channels is necessary?
Is a BPM-counter necessary?
These are the questions that comes up in my head, and if you got anything else to add, just do it.
These mixers you stick into your computer, or laptop, are they good? why/why not? (I mean Behringer BCD2000, or Hercules DJ-Console MkII for example)
I really want to start mixing a bit now, ive tried Traktor demo and i think it is more fun in reality..
Im looking into CDJing
/Gabriel
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philblunt
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Posted - 2006/10/31 : 13:54:02
Hi mate,
BPM counter is not needed.
In terms of EQ, just having bass, mid and top is fine there is no real need for any more than that.
Concentrate on getting a mixer that's a decent build with basic features, it should last well. Personally I never see the point in getting a mixer with BPM counter and all that sh1t, a billion buttons you wont use, etc.
Good luck!
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Dain-Ja
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Posted - 2006/10/31 : 18:55:21
Don't get a any mixer with a 2 band EQ!
You NEED a 3 band EQ (4 is overkill)
That means low/mid/high
A BPM counter is not needed and you should NOT get one if you're learning because it won't teach you anything (they never work anyways)
Traktor is useable if you're using an external controller like you mentioned, otherwise it's useless.
Good luck.
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NeXuS
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Posted - 2006/10/31 : 20:41:46
A 2-band EQ is enough to start learning on but 3 is recomended. It allows you to mix and play with the sounds more wich will sound alot better.
I strongly recomend a mixer with NO bmp counter. They teach you nothing about mixing and like Dain-Ja said they rarely work anyway.
A question i need answered before recomending a mixer is what kind of setup are you looking for? Do you want to be a software based DJ or hardware (turntables) DJ?
And I would suggest to stay away from any Behringer mixers, some do fine with them but I've heard too many bad things about them.
If you want to be a CDJay just shop around and read some feedback from customers who already bought and own them. Also although Technics make fantastic Vinyl turntables, their CD turntables are complete crap. If you want some high-end quality then look into Pioneer's. Thats about all I know of CD tables :P
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Jax
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Posted - 2006/10/31 : 21:23:04
good advice there off nexus
it depends what you want to spend, for around £100 second hand you can get hold of a Pioneer DJM 300 or a vestax PCV 275 which are really good quality mixers
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Dain-Ja
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Posted - 2006/11/04 : 06:46:15
If you're getting CDJs get CDJ-100s used
they're so cheap now that the CDJ-200s are out and they're great - very reliable.
If you're getting turntables you have to choices:
1) get cheap USED decks (Stanton Str8-80 or Gemini XL-500/PT-2000 for example) - you'll want to upgrade to tech12s after a year so don't buy them new cause their resale value is about 40% of the original price you paid
by buying them used you'll be able to sell them for what you paid for them
2) get tech12s right away - you can get them used because they're super reliable and everything is replaceable. A used pair runs 550-850$ canadian (275-425 pounds) and they'll last forever (I have a deck that's over 12 years old)
Technics 1200s are the best. You can ask pretty much any big name and they'll agree that nothing beats them and they refuse to playon anything else
For mixers... Vestax PCV-175/PCV-275 are AMAZING starter mixers but they might be too expensive to start on (although if you find a used one cheap go for it)
The Pioneer DJM-300 is OK but way too expensive for what it is (and it sounds horrible compared to a PCV-275).
If I was starting and was on a budget I'd go on ebay looking for a mixer like a PCV-175 or a midrange Stanton mixer in good condition
As Nexus said - stay as far away from Behringer as you can
Their mixers are HORRIBLE. You'll notice a bunch of people will say they're great but if you ask them, all have been DJing less than a year so their opinion is worthless.
Behringer makes piece of shit mixers (for the same price you'll get much better from others) - cheap faders, EQs, effects that don't work, HORRIBLE sound quality (connected to a big system there's a SUPER LOUD buzz and the mixer interferes with jsut about anything), etc.
Hope that helps...good luck :)
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Sk8SiM
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Posted - 2006/11/04 : 23:26:25
Questions like these are asked too many times around here!
I made a topic for your needs though I few months back... it has a link to a site on it that tells you EVERYTHING... you could EVER want to know about DJing!
http://happyhardcore.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=30994
Check it out ;)
My advice though... NEVER get any mixer without at least a 3 band EQ!
And I disagree with the Behringer mixers!
The reason you've probly herd so many bad things about them is cuse there the most widely used mixers in the business! In almost every pic I see of a party or rave I see a Behringer mixer... mostly the Behringer DJX700!
And that’s just what I’d recommend mate...
The Behringer DJX700!
It’s a professional mixer and has built in TONS of built in FX's, 4 channels, kills switchs, replacably cross fader, bpm ****er and visal beat sync, mic talk over function ect ect... TONS OF STUFF and practically everything a pro would need! It’s great for beginners and GREAT for pros!
And best of all its ONLY £150! (For what you get that’s a GREAT price!)
http://www.decks.co.uk/products/mixers/behringer/DJX700
I've had one for time and never had any problems with it... well one or 2 little fualts but nothing extreme or unfixable... you really can't feel hard done by though with a mixer thats soo good for the price!
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Sk8SiM
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Posted - 2006/11/04 : 23:39:48
quote:
Originally posted by Dain-Ja:
As Nexus said - stay as far away from Behringer as you can
Their mixers are HORRIBLE. You'll notice a bunch of people will say they're great but if you ask them, all have been DJing less than a year so their opinion is worthless.
Not really... I know plenty of pros that have the Behringer DJX700 in there home set up, and have never had any problems with them!
As a matter of fact, this is the first time i've EVER herd someone complain about them!
Its a bit of a shcok really  normally seeing pros use them made me feel proud to have owned one... plus it goes SOOO well in my bedroom and looks the part too... spes in a studio... other mixers just look rather cheep and nasty!...
But now I'm very openminded about whats being said...
Cheers For the info though
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gabbe
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Posted - 2006/11/07 : 20:34:04
thanks guys!, good advices there! i appreciate it alot!
But, why do i need fourchannels-mixer, and what is it? most what i see has just 2 channels, is it better with four?
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NeXuS
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Posted - 2006/11/09 : 17:40:41
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Originally posted by gabbe:
But, why do i need fourchannels-mixer, and what is it? most what i see has just 2 channels, is it better with four?
With four all it means is you can plug 2 more stations into your mixer. Say like 2 vinyl tables for channels 1&2, and 2 cd tables for channels 3&4. Gives you room for expanding with new equipment.
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Sk8SiM
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Posted - 2006/11/10 : 00:22:55
quote:
Originally posted by NeXuS:
quote:
Originally posted by gabbe:
But, why do i need fourchannels-mixer, and what is it? most what i see has just 2 channels, is it better with four?
With four all it means is you can plug 2 more stations into your mixer. Say like 2 vinyl tables for channels 1&2, and 2 cd tables for channels 3&4. Gives you room for expanding with new equipment.
Indeed it’s fantastic for studio use too!
In my room I have my turntables hucked up to channels 1&4
My pc output is hucked up to channel 3
And my TV, Video, DVD & Consoles ect are all hucked up to channel 2!
Then I have my master output going to my main sound system, and a booth output (with its own volume knob) hucked up to my pc input (for recording) as well as a microphone (with added pop screen) hucked up to the microphone channel!
It allows me to record ANYTHING!!! and have freedom over what I want to do!
Aswell as be able to change the volume of everything in my room from one place!
Also with channel 3 being my PC output, it alows me mix my own tracks (using Digi Software for cueing) aswell as record stuff off websites for use of soundfx, backing sounds in my productions!
Its also fantastic for EQing my production work, with the added kill switches! This allows me to kill fregs off my work using the mixer, to make sure certain sounds are where they need to be in the sonic space!
I'm also planning soon on buying a booster for the master output, so this can also be channeled into my computer input! (instead of using the booth output) this way I can assign some reverb (with the built in FXs) to the microphone so that vocalists can hear themselves back when recording... while the signal transmitted to the pc is untouched and clean!
All In All  Best £150 I’ve ever spent
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charlieee
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Posted - 2006/11/10 : 10:11:00
i would strongly recommend a stanton c.314 they are heaps gud as a cdj as for Behringer iv got nottin bad to say bout iv got a Behringer djx400 and it work lyk a charm never had any prob. the only disapoint ment is that it's only a 2ch mixer oh well gud for starters
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