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Righteous9
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 Posted - 2007/01/17 : 02:32:35
I used to hear this term a lot before but I forgot what it means... What is a gateway drug again? and if you could describe your experience... Cool!
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tunnelrush
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Posted - 2007/01/17 : 02:39:41
gateway is referring to more easily accessible drugs (weed, alcohol) being a possible 'gateway' opening for you to try even harsher/crazier/potent drugs that are typically NOT tried intially, before the (weed alcohol ) im sure there are other drugs considered gateway drugs but thats the jist of the meaning
I myself smoked cigarettes, now herb. dropped the cig's since i was 7th grade. i've done shrooms, E, . But not herion, acid, crack, meth. and i dont plan on it either.
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Posted - 2007/01/17 : 05:08:52
The 'Gateway' drug theory is bollocks. A few people did a survey asking crack and smack addicts if they tried softer drugs before they got onto the hardcore stuff, shock horror, they had. Apparently the survey therfore shows that softer drugs cause you to take harder ones.
Now rewind and add some common sense. Crack addicts tried softer drugs first? Well duh, they aren't just going to one day decide to buy a tenner bag are they? Lots of people (if not most) have tried some softer drugs when they were young, that doesn't mean they turned into smack heads later on in life. Finding out that actual smack heads also started out on softer stuff isn't really a shock, and I think its nothing less than retarded to expect some random smack rat NOT to have tried some softer stuff in their youth before touching that crap!
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whispering
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Posted - 2007/01/17 : 07:11:41
Some say it is true, and to a degree i agree.
Here, most of the drugs are that, drugs. There isnt much of a softer or hard drugs. So when you go buy lets say weed, due to the black/white view on drugs, many (that only use the softer ones) are too afraid to sell it to anyone, its illegal to grow it etc. So that means they have to buy from the dealers that also sell other stuff. So the other drugs are already there, the transition to another one is like standing on a liqour store and desiding you'll get vodka instead of beer this time. I know many instances where people tryed to buy weed, but it was out so they offer something else, naturally.
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mark-ireland
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Posted - 2007/01/17 : 09:25:16
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The 'Gateway' drug theory is bollocks.
Agreed.
I've drank and smoked weed for years, never moved on to heroin because of it and I won't be either.
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clarke101
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Posted - 2007/01/17 : 09:54:44
Its true for me. Although there are somethings i didnt try.
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bulby_g
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Posted - 2007/01/17 : 10:30:44
I think (generally) people get into doing certain types of drugs through the group of people they socialise with.
I do, however, think there is some truth to the whole "gateway" thing. I never would have tried pills if I hadn't of been absolutely hammered on alcohol... That said though I smoked lots of skunk earlier in life (and didn't really drink at all) and I would have never dreamed of touching chemicals then.
So... It can be true but I think to treat it as a hard fast rule is ridiculous.
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Knightmare
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Posted - 2007/01/17 : 11:02:01
the "gateway theory" or "stepping stone theory" is shit in the sence that the theory proclaims that soft drugs inevitably at some point will lead you to usage of harddrugs. I mean, i know a lot of folks who like to smoke a joint now and again but who won't even go near anything related to harddrugs.
Of course it can be that ppl start with soft drugs and get curious about what hard drugs can do but then again, so can normal curiosity or any kind of medication that at one time or another has made your head spin a little.
The Gateway theory is simply jumping to conclussion.
It's all about correlation in the results, not causality.
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2007/01/17 : 12:15:25
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Originally posted by mark-ireland:
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The 'Gateway' drug theory is bollocks.
Agreed.
I've drank and smoked weed for years, never moved on to heroin because of it and I won't be either.
I agree too. You will only try harder drugs because you want to try harder drugs. If you don't want to try harder drugs you won't, it's as simple as that :P
You might say then that if it wasn't for 'gateway drugs' then you wouldn't have been initiated with harder drugs; that is true, but if someone wanted to try the harder drugs it's likely that they would have done sooner or later anyway and just makes it seem like softer drugs were a gateway to them.
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Smoogie
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Posted - 2007/01/17 : 15:36:20
Having tried 'E' a few times I can say I won't try other stuff as I take it in moderation. I have also drank and smoked in the past. Don't think the 'Theory' means much as everyone is different and get into situations in different ways.
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Posted - 2007/01/17 : 15:59:58
For me it all started with an Aspirin....
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wong
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Posted - 2007/01/17 : 18:28:01
its loads a bollox this gateway thing, my first drug was a pill it dint lead 2 nothin harder (except ive tried coke bout 4 times) the only thing it led 2 4 me was weed n thats softer innit
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SkittyLove
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Posted - 2007/01/17 : 19:11:18
There definately is no such thing as a gateway drug. It's a matter of the mind. A person sets the boundaries from the beginning. If they never wanted to try other things, they wouldnt. If they did, then they will.
And a person will try what comes up first, and that is usually pot.
That doesnt mean that once they try and decide whether they like that drug they have to go on to another. It means it depends on the person, not on the drug.
Gov't needs to quit trying to blame herb for everyone's addictions.
It's each's own fault if they get that bad.
Atleast that's how I see it
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Posted - 2007/01/17 : 20:17:44
its bollocks - Its like saying that caffeine is a gateway drug because 99% of smack addicts have drunk coffee. The only reason that people who smoke weed are more likely to come into contact with harder drugs is because its illegal. Putting it in the blackmarket asscoiates it with harder drug dealers.
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Righteous9
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Posted - 2007/01/19 : 17:10:52
Right, I never reached the gateway either. I've done, alcohol, cigarettes (And I still smoke like a pack a day), weed, shrooms, acid, And that's it... My best experience was with acid, though!, no coke, although a swore I got very high one time, so it might have been laced, no XTC, no herion, although I lived with a heroin user, no speed, no Robitusson!
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Posted - 2007/01/19 : 17:16:53
quote:
Originally posted by Righteous9:
acid,
Whats that if it's not the gateway heh ;) Far worse than XTC, Coke and Ket IMO.
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