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a list of things that are killing the scene

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nrXic
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Posted - 2007/02/05 :  21:45:18  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit nrXic's homepage  Reply with quote
Am I the only one who can't stand those electric lights? Back in the day we used to party in candlelight...let me tell you, the music sounded better in candelight! *shakes fist*

The only issue I see as a valid point for discussion is the "commercialization" of hardcore. I'd argue that it's a good thing for a few reasons:

-it promotes the entire genre
-it gets people to be more open minded about other styles of hardcore
-it makes producers money...these same people stuck through it in the 90's and it's taken a while but they are now finally being recognized and financially rewarded.
-people still crave the non-commercial hardcore...whether it's 190+bpm or ultra-cheesy...people still want this stuff so newer producers get to fill that niche and get some attention



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Marshy88
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Posted - 2007/02/05 :  22:08:13  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Marshy88's homepage  Reply with quote
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how is storm killin scene!!!?
(not like any of the ovas are)
He is the biggest vibe buzzer goin


Agreed MC storm is by far the best mc(hence why ravers have made him best mc 4 like 3 years). ive heard tons of sets of him and he is class.


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MegaJynx
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Posted - 2007/02/06 :  03:28:03  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by dj bugbear:
quote:
Originally posted by MegaJynx:
I don't understand why CDJ's seem to be such a bad thing, I mean it does allow for thoes cheap piraters to DJ (DJ Rankin probably), but yea, some tracks i simply CANNOT find on vinyl. But yea, in a perfect world, vinyl would be the exclusive standard for DJ'ing, it would be easy to find vinyl tracks, and be a bit lighter on the wallet. My $0.02

P.S. 95 is a trollinator.


EDIT: I would also like to comment that it's people like 95 that over-critizise the scene that REALLY kill it: it turns people off to what hardcore is today, loosing support, which would in turn for it to fall off the face of the planet compleatly.



im on cdjs and i dont like you sayin cheap pirate djs >< makes it look like you mean all djs on cdjs are pirates.. i kinda have no choise tho.. go to a club here in the netherlands and you prolly find cdjs instead of TT's



I apologize to all CDJ users as I never meant to imply that your all pirates.


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this-is-bonkers
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Posted - 2007/02/06 :  08:38:04  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit this-is-bonkers's homepage  Reply with quote
i dont really wanna point the blame but i reckon chavs & pipkeys are killing the scene, but its not really dyeing because there is such a large amount of normal people going LOL!...

95 your fulla shit..ppl over 30 what the hell!! and defiantly with out a doubt clubland is killign the scene as is DJ rankin & Cammy...WHY IS CLUBLAND KILLIGN IT? i hear yo urask..BECAUSE its repetative commercial crap that draws in the chavs to it

i *heart* MC STORM! but i do agree alittle TINY bit about MC's in general i mean its OK when you can understadn them liek on CDs but at a rave i cant understand a god damn word....except when whizzkid is working his verbal magic

well thats my 2 cents ^^


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RAVER7
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Posted - 2007/02/06 :  08:59:17  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit RAVER7's homepage  Reply with quote
he does not know anything about hardcore someone needs to shoot this twat called 95 was the time or tell him its himself killing the scene by being a cock sucking gay lord

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Project-Industrial
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Posted - 2007/02/06 :  10:06:05  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Project-Industrial's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by MegaJynx:
quote:
Originally posted by dj bugbear:
quote:
Originally posted by MegaJynx:
I don't understand why CDJ's seem to be such a bad thing, I mean it does allow for thoes cheap piraters to DJ (DJ Rankin probably), but yea, some tracks i simply CANNOT find on vinyl. But yea, in a perfect world, vinyl would be the exclusive standard for DJ'ing, it would be easy to find vinyl tracks, and be a bit lighter on the wallet. My $0.02

P.S. 95 is a trollinator.


EDIT: I would also like to comment that it's people like 95 that over-critizise the scene that REALLY kill it: it turns people off to what hardcore is today, loosing support, which would in turn for it to fall off the face of the planet compleatly.



im on cdjs and i dont like you sayin cheap pirate djs >< makes it look like you mean all djs on cdjs are pirates.. i kinda have no choise tho.. go to a club here in the netherlands and you prolly find cdjs instead of TT's



I apologize to all CDJ users as I never meant to imply that your all pirates.


apoligize accpted =]


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Chris B
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Posted - 2007/02/06 :  10:28:08  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Chris B's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by dj bugbear:
i kinda have no choise tho.. go to a club here in the netherlands and you prolly find cdjs instead of TT's



Maybe in a club but not at the raves unless things have changed fast, you cant even buy terror/speedcore on digital i dont think?

I can see cdj's are where it's happening for most things in future though, vinyl sales are really low.

But for the classics and other genres like drum n bass and the HARDcore is a vinyl culture and wont change for a good while or unless we have to.

To be honest cdjays just dont appeal to me one bit, vinyl jus feels better.

But wouldnt mind buyin final scratch or somethin like that.

Anyway whats killin the scene hahahahaha, not a lot by the looks of it.

Plenty of raves for the cheesy uk happy style, and a nice few events for the bangin stuff.


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Project-Industrial
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Posted - 2007/02/06 :  13:10:24  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Project-Industrial's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chris B:
quote:
Originally posted by dj bugbear:
i kinda have no choise tho.. go to a club here in the netherlands and you prolly find cdjs instead of TT's



Maybe in a club but not at the raves unless things have changed fast, you cant even buy terror/speedcore on digital i dont think?

I can see cdj's are where it's happening for most things in future though, vinyl sales are really low.

But for the classics and other genres like drum n bass and the HARDcore is a vinyl culture and wont change for a good while or unless we have to.

To be honest cdjays just dont appeal to me one bit, vinyl jus feels better.

But wouldnt mind buyin final scratch or somethin like that.

Anyway whats killin the scene hahahahaha, not a lot by the looks of it.

Plenty of raves for the cheesy uk happy style, and a nice few events for the bangin stuff.



terrro / speedcore can be bought digital =] ill look up a site for ya when i get bak home ^^

agree on vynil feels better.. but its expensive and i only got ma cd decks left >_>


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Chris B
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Posted - 2007/02/06 :  17:15:45  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Chris B's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by dj bugbear:
terrro / speedcore can be bought digital =] ill look up a site for ya when i get bak home ^^

agree on vynil feels better.. but its expensive and i only got ma cd decks left >_>



sound mate anno the industrial strength have started doin mp3's and a lad off here gave me a wkd site for older stuff aswell.

Jus never ever saw any dj using cdjays when i've been ravin in holland, might've changed jus cant really imagine it to have changed that quickly


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Edited by - Chris B on 2007/02/06 19:33:02
this-is-bonkers
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Posted - 2007/02/06 :  17:16:51  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit this-is-bonkers's homepage  Reply with quote
like it or hate it 95 the scene as everythign else in life is going digital!!! its a little thign called change most things tend to do it over time, except you who remains a...well we all know how that finishes...most of the events i have been too with the exceptionof HTID the DJ's have been useing CD decks & it still sounds FIIINE

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Posted - 2007/02/06 :  17:39:37  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Project-Industrial's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chris B:
quote:
Originally posted by dj bugbear:
terrro / speedcore can be bought digital =] ill look up a site for ya when i get bak home ^^

agree on vynil feels better.. but its expensive and i only got ma cd decks left >_>



sound mate anno the industrial strength have started doin mp3's and a lad off me gave me a wkd site for older stuff aswell.

Jus never ever saw any dj using cdjays when i've been ravin in holland, might've changed jus cant really imagine it to have changed that quickly



ur half rite ^^;; there are clubs that still use TT's + big raves/party's still have TT's on em. but there are really a load of dj's who use cd decks. look @ dsi or myspace .. you see djs with a cd bag next to the cdj's which kinda means they are usin it ^^;;


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Chris B
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Posted - 2007/02/06 :  17:52:47  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Chris B's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by dj bugbear:
look @ dsi or myspace ..


I'd rather not mate hahaha, myspace can be cool for music but i dunno jus dont like dsi

quote:
you see djs with a cd bag next to the cdj's which kinda means they are usin it ^^;;



oh aye mate anno is happenin but i dont like uk hardcore and not into much house,trance or whatever.

What i was sayin is with things like bangin hardcore, old stuff and drum n bass seems to not be much cd decks. I try to go ravin in holland at least a couple times a year and havent seen a cd deck yet


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Posted - 2007/02/06 :  18:09:39  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Project-Industrial's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chris B:
quote:
Originally posted by dj bugbear:
look @ dsi or myspace ..


I'd rather not mate hahaha, myspace can be cool for music but i dunno jus dont like dsi

quote:
you see djs with a cd bag next to the cdj's which kinda means they are usin it ^^;;



oh aye mate anno is happenin but i dont like uk hardcore and not into much house,trance or whatever.

What i was sayin is with things like bangin hardcore, old stuff and drum n bass seems to not be much cd decks. I try to go ravin in holland at least a couple times a year and havent seen a cd deck yet



hehe then you got me wrong aswell :p im not playin happy that often ;) im more of a mainstream dutch person.. couse im from the netherlands :) and believe me there are loads as i paly in clubs maself i can tell ya they are here


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Henrik K.
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Posted - 2007/02/06 :  18:30:05  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
Sorry but i personally think when u play cd you only get half the feeling and experience and u really don't need skillz coz it's so damn easy. Real dj's play Vinyl and the only reason why some top dj's use cd is because it's more comfortable than to carry bags of 12" and half the stuff they play is not released. Ask a proppa dj which one he or she really would prefer? 99,9% say vinyl :)

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