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The Doc
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 Posted - 2007/02/15 : 00:36:14
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Originally posted by jenks:
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Originally posted by Pope C XXIII:
Wow. Now I know why black people over here are terrified of white people.
Multicultural mess? WTF???
Belief in ethnic and nationalistic distinction is a mental plauge that destroys any chance this planet has in moving forward and constructing a society that isn't completely dysfunctional (not to say it's the only reason though, but it certainly is a major contributor.)
Some cultures don't mix, they isolate themselves from the mainstream and alienate the rest of the community. Imposing multiculturalism on Britain was a BIG mistake imo, it was very shortsighted and I think narrowminded too to assume that we'd all 'just get a long'. I reckon it's only going to get worse too, because it seems its the most recent generations of immigrants, or their children who make little or no effort to assimilate into British culture.
It might sound a bit crude but Britain is for the British, our government should be acting in native Britons interests first and foremost instead of bending over backwards to please immigrants and ethnic minorities. It's an English characteristic to make fun of foreigners, it's just something we've always done, it's nothing sinister it's just something we do, all this political correctness crap runs totally against the grain in the UK...
agreed! BTW I'm off work this friday and boy will I need all day to type what I think of this country!
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dee_licious
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Posted - 2007/02/15 : 10:43:53
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Originally posted by clarke101:
My guide to improving the country.
1. People who become a burden on the health service are put out of their misery.
2. Flat rate of income tax and National insurance.
3. Road Tax and add the cost to fuel. There by the biggest users pay more, encouraging people not to use there car.
4. People on benefits are forced to do meanial jobs to recieve their benefits. (Where possible).
5. Take essential services back into public ownership. Post office, Gas, Electric
6. Scrap Inheritance tax. The government has already had a cut from people earnings.
7. Stop immergration unless they add something to the country or have skills that we need.
8. Leave E.U and stop being an American lap dog.
9. Make prison hard work and luxury free.
10. Legalise as many drugs as possible. Alcohol and tobacco are legal already.
Do you study sociology? Cos i think the subject was crap personally! What is the point of talking all these improvements to death when nothing is ever done about it? The government has its priorities all wrong, but the next election may remedy that (hopefully). There is little we can do as people other than vote, and where does that get us? Another government that only has few things we all agree on! Really, what is the point?
The whole country is going down the pan, asylum seekers, bloody taxes! All we ever seem to do is pay out. Its just not worth the time or the breath.
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whispering
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Posted - 2007/02/15 : 11:06:45
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Originally posted by dee_licious:
There is little we can do as people other than vote, and where does that get us? Another government that only has few things we all agree on! Really, what is the point?
Well for starters, you can become a politician.
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kathryn
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Posted - 2007/02/15 : 11:34:50
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Originally posted by Pope C XXIII:
Wow. Now I know why black people over here are terrified of white people.
Multicultural mess? WTF???
Belief in ethnic and nationalistic distinction is a mental plauge that destroys any chance this planet has in moving forward and constructing a society that isn't completely dysfunctional (not to say it's the only reason though, but it certainly is a major contributor.)
well you do see a lot of asylum seekers coming over here for an easy claimnig persecution etc ok some may be true but others come over to get fully furnished homes, benefits left right and centre and there dressed up to the nines with the latest fashion clothes and expensive mobiles!
Makes me sick!
Britain should look sfter its own and help to get the homeless of the streets!
By homeless i mean the ones who dont want to live on the streets and are moved on from street to street etc!
Britains priorities need to come into action now before we get loadsa illegal immigrants over here trying to take over the country!
RANT OVER!
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whispering
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Posted - 2007/02/15 : 12:25:47
Personally people seem to be focusing too much on the symptoms, not the problem itself. There are literally millions of refugees, people that have been forced to abandon their homes, often countries. We should consontrate on fixing that. I dont give a shit who it insults, if there are people dying, we need to send peacekeepers there, food, aid or whatever. I'm not saying forcefeeding the democracy agenda, christianity or anything else. I'm saying forcefeeding peace and humanity.
I mean just look at the numbers, its ****ing unacceptable.
As of 1 January 2007, UNHCR (United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees) reported a total of 21 018 589 individuals falling under its mandate.
7 979 251 in Asia, of which
• 2 580 638 in the Middle-East
• 2 974 315 in South-East Asia
• 218 584 in Central Asia
• 1 304 189 in South Asia
• 901 525 in East Asia and the Pacific
4 740 392 in Europe, of which
• 1 617 214 in Eastern Europe
• 708 132 in South-East Europe
• 616 132 in Central Europe and in the Baltic states
• 1 798 914 in Western Europe
5 069 123 in Africa, of which
• 1 359 175 in Central Africa and the Great Lakes region
• 2 105 314 in Eastern Africa
• 1 031 030 in Western Africa
• 434 427 in the Southern African region
• 139 177 in North Africa
3 229 822 in America, of which
• 717 545 in North America and in the Caribbean
• 2 512 277 in South America
Numbers from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_High_Commission_for_Refugees
http://www.earthwater.ca
http://www.ninemillion.org
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clarke101
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Posted - 2007/02/15 : 12:55:41
Whispering, are the numbers given where they are or where they came from?
If its where they came from. Can someone explain why there are 1 3/4m refuges in Western Europe:/
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Lilley
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Posted - 2007/02/15 : 13:12:58
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Originally posted by charlie4u:
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Originally posted by Lilley:
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Originally posted by jenks:
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Originally posted by Pope C XXIII:
Wow. Now I know why black people over here are terrified of white people.
Multicultural mess? WTF???
Belief in ethnic and nationalistic distinction is a mental plauge that destroys any chance this planet has in moving forward and constructing a society that isn't completely dysfunctional (not to say it's the only reason though, but it certainly is a major contributor.)
Some cultures don't mix, they isolate themselves from the mainstream and alienate the rest of the community. Imposing multiculturalism on Britain was a BIG mistake imo, it was very shortsighted and I think narrowminded too to assume that we'd all 'just get a long'. I reckon it's only going to get worse too, because it seems its the most recent generations of immigrants, or their children who make little or no effort to assimilate into British culture.
It might sound a bit crude but Britain is for the British, our government should be acting in native Britons interests first and foremost instead of bending over backwards to please immigrants and ethnic minorities. It's an English characteristic to make fun of foreigners, it's just something we've always done, it's nothing sinister it's just something we do, all this political correctness crap runs totally against the grain in the UK...
i not british, but i completely agree. In aus, the youth community, especially among the lebanese and italian communities, are controlled by the mob mentality, and have no respect for the law or anyone else. The governement does nothing about it, because these people are migrants and we should be accepting of their lifestyle, and our culture is getting ripped to shreds by it.
hey you cant just say it's the italians and lebs that have no respect for the law, what about aus bogains and the yobos (westies).
If anything you guys need us as around the early 1920 most of the population was of anglo saxon decent and what was the population then??????????? who built the snow river schem?????
if it wasnt for migrants aus would of bn know were by now, less then half the population, bad economics and standard of living ect
so you can just say we do nothing but cause trouble
sorry if i caused offence dude i no there are def problems esp in houso areas especially out in dubbo but in my experience these problems are not to severe simply coz the aussies are so bogan that they cbf doin anything destructive. wot i was tryin to say is reflected in the cronulla riots - how they started, the senseless bashing of the people in the train and on the beach, and the revenge attacks, which in particular seemed ridiculously over the top just by the amount of damage caused. im sure u would agree that it was a key example of society gone wrong and that no party was without blame except for asians maybe. wot i got particualarly annoyed about was the premiers inablilty to do anyhting about it. while i live in the shire i have gone to skool in hurstville most of my life and have more than my share of non-skip friends - asian mediterrainian and lebanese.
Btw i am fully aware of where aus would be if the immigration policy wasnt put in place
i also believe that assimilation would be much more effective if there was not so much segregation btw ppl groups
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Lilley
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Posted - 2007/02/15 : 13:32:00
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Originally posted by clarke101:
My guide to improving the country.
1. People who become a burden on the health service are put out of their misery.
2. Flat rate of income tax and National insurance.
3. Road Tax and add the cost to fuel. There by the biggest users pay more, encouraging people not to use there car.
4. People on benefits are forced to do meanial jobs to recieve their benefits. (Where possible).
5. Take essential services back into public ownership. Post office, Gas, Electric
6. Scrap Inheritance tax. The government has already had a cut from people earnings.
7. Stop immergration unless they add something to the country or have skills that we need.
8. Leave E.U and stop being an American lap dog.
9. Make prison hard work and luxury free.
10. Legalise as many drugs as possible. Alcohol and tobacco are legal already.
why not just let team america loose for 2 or 3 hours? theyd get evrything straight in no time
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whispering
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Posted - 2007/02/15 : 13:49:59
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Originally posted by clarke101:
Whispering, are the numbers given where they are or where they came from?
If its where they came from. Can someone explain why there are 1 3/4m refuges in Western Europe:/
Its where they are i believe, it also has internally displaced people. Except the people effected by Katrina and Rita in US, cause they are not of concern to UNHCR.
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clarke101
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Posted - 2007/02/15 : 13:52:57
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Originally posted by whispering:
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Originally posted by clarke101:
Whispering, are the numbers given where they are or where they came from?
If its where they came from. Can someone explain why there are 1 3/4m refuges in Western Europe:/
Its where they are i believe, it also has internally displaced people. Except the people effected by Katrina and Rita in US, cause they are not of concern to UNHCR.
Cool.
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Posted - 2007/02/15 : 14:03:00
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Well for starters, you can become a politician.
You've gotta be ugly, boring and have a serious chip on your shoulder though
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whispering
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Posted - 2007/02/15 : 15:09:26
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Originally posted by bent_bananna:
You've gotta be ugly, boring and have a serious chip on your shoulder though
In politics your looks and profession doesnt matter that much. There arent that much requirmenst. We had a politician who was a pro boxer, accidentally shot himself when he was in finnish parliament and in 2006 he was involuntarily committed to a mental hospital :D
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djDMS
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Posted - 2007/02/15 : 20:34:09
Nothing wrong with the country, it's just the large number of wankers who populate it that i have a problem with.
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Jay-Owen
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Posted - 2007/02/15 : 21:17:40
Well put, DMS. I agree. that's why I moved
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DarrenJ
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Posted - 2007/02/16 : 11:07:30
Just wish to add my comment about the debate of Australia (which is offtopic anyway)
while sydney has its problems, it doesnt reflect the whole of australia and the workings of multiculturalism
Im happy enough with the system in my state and people get along, while there are rivalrys between, lebonese and some radical "Anglo-Saxons", silly sporting rivalrys with yugoslavian kids, and odd asian gang in richer area's.
Really is a nice place and 99.99% of people get along, in my programming class we have a polish lady, japanese lady, malaysian man, african lady, and 3 local youth (inc. myself)
really things are pretty peachy
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