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is gabber pronounced habber?

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AJSharps
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Posted - 2007/04/27 :  00:15:50  Show profile Send a private message
thats what i thought but iv heard people say they like "gabber" which is it?

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Posted - 2007/04/27 :  00:18:37  Show profile  Send a private message
habber?

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gabber is a dutch word so its possible its pronounced differently
well 1st off i thought it was "gabber" but then i heard pro djs and producers etc saying "habber"
the reason i thought of this is because a program was on last night showing how the rave scene had formed and it said "bla bla bla...gabber pronounced habber is..bla bla bla" and my mate said it isnt true lol
so i came on here to find out which 1 it is


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quote:
Originally posted by AJSharps:
gabber is a dutch word so its possible its pronounced differently
well 1st off i thought it was "gabber" but then i heard pro djs and producers etc saying "habber"
the reason i thought of this is because a program was on last night showing how the rave scene had formed and it said "bla bla bla...gabber pronounced habber is..bla bla bla" and my mate said it isnt true lol
so i came on here to find out which 1 it is


what was the show called? and what chanel was it on? (I'll look out for it) Gabber is the Dutch word or phrase for a person who dances and listens to Gabba! (rave=raver ect) but the way the Dutch pronounce English it could sound like that!



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BTW when was the last Habber CD you saw?

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Posted - 2007/04/27 :  01:06:59  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit AJSharps's homepage
im not sure, it was on at like 3 in the mornin, think it was on bbc3 but not to sure, wait i swear two pints is on at that time on bbc3 hmmm, owell, on the night before last, is anyone on these forums half dutch or something?
this program was a pretty 'you done your homework program' if you know what i mean, it wasnt an amateur film basicly


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no it's definitely pronounced gabber, with a g

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Posted - 2007/04/27 :  04:23:06  Show profile  Send a private message
the 14 years I've listened to it, I've never heard anyone say habber

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I'm Dutch, and have studied linguistics and phonology at university, so I can't help but being tempted to explain it further. :$

It definitely isn't pronounced "habber" here. However, we do have a different pronunciation of the "G" in Dutch, which might resemble an "H" to English speakers.

It sounds, in fact, a bit like the "CH" in the Scottish word "loch" or the German word "Nacht", albeit softer. To be precise, have a look here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Phonetic_Alphabet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_phonology

The "G" in "gabber" you're on about is the fricative velar [X] or [Y] in the Dutch IPA chart in the link above.


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tink its pronounced 'you're a cock'

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quote:
Originally posted by Chwhynny:
I'm Dutch, and have studied linguistics and phonology at university, so I can't help but being tempted to explain it further. :$

It definitely isn't pronounced "habber" here. However, we do have a different pronunciation of the "G" in Dutch, which might resemble an "H" to English speakers.

It sounds, in fact, a bit like the "CH" in the Scottish word "loch" or the German word "Nacht", albeit softer. To be precise, have a look here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Phonetic_Alphabet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_phonology

The "G" in "gabber" you're on about is the fricative velar [X] or [Y] in the Dutch IPA chart in the link above.



Thats what i was just going to post:P


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Posted - 2007/04/27 :  13:00:08  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit AJSharps's homepage
k.... well i dont feel like a nob.....
thanks people


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I suggest just don't act like you know and pronounce it gabber like the way it's supposed to be pronounced in your language. There's no heirarchy in music, it's all music. So if someone wants to be a prick and tell you you're wrong for using a G sound and acts like they're better for saying it "right" then tell them that you're English or whatever and you can pronounce it however you want.

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