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Squishy Star
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 Posted - 2007/09/22 : 23:42:04
well here's what i've noticed..
there's starting to be more "gottis/guidos" at raves..
just think it's funny how i don't usually associate myself with them but beneath their mad gelled hair and my "emoish" hair, we like the same music and love raving.
think it's awesome!
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jenks
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Posted - 2007/09/23 : 00:33:06
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Do I sense a homophobic attitude here ?
So what if gay people go raving, you scared or something ?
Christ, since when was hardcore about your sexuality ?
Some wierd things get put on these forums aye lol
What if you find it disgusting? I'd rather not find myself in a situation where I might be confronted with a sight that might make me feel sick every time I turn around...
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Posted - 2007/09/23 : 01:53:26
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Originally posted by jenks:
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Originally posted by LeVzi:
Do I sense a homophobic attitude here ?
So what if gay people go raving, you scared or something ?
Christ, since when was hardcore about your sexuality ?
Some wierd things get put on these forums aye lol
What if you find it disgusting? I'd rather not find myself in a situation where I might be confronted with a sight that might make me feel sick every time I turn around...
Well, that's called "keep it to yourself and just don't go if you don't like it."
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Posted - 2007/09/23 : 02:09:45
feminine music brings in feminine people
Also not alot of good "mainstream anthem" gabber out in last year, means less being played by hardcore dj's.. which normally scares away females
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Posted - 2007/09/23 : 02:21:01
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Originally posted by jenks:
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Originally posted by LeVzi:
Do I sense a homophobic attitude here ?
So what if gay people go raving, you scared or something ?
Christ, since when was hardcore about your sexuality ?
Some wierd things get put on these forums aye lol
What if you find it disgusting? I'd rather not find myself in a situation where I might be confronted with a sight that might make me feel sick every time I turn around...
Well there is no law about being homophobic, just like there isnt a law about being homosexual. Two blokes kissing would make me feel ill , I wont lie about that, but then two women kissing would make me feel ill too. But I dont worry about that, I dont let it bother me, I just look the other way. Ive been to many places in the UK over the years, clubs/pubs/events/whatever, and I can honestly count the amount of times ive been approached by a man on 1 finger.
I dunno what the beef is, just look the other way. Ya quite safe, apparantly straight men have a beacon to gay men to say stay away :p
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Posted - 2007/09/23 : 19:02:29
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Originally posted by Pope C XXIII:
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Originally posted by jenks:
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Originally posted by LeVzi:
Do I sense a homophobic attitude here ?
So what if gay people go raving, you scared or something ?
Christ, since when was hardcore about your sexuality ?
Some wierd things get put on these forums aye lol
What if you find it disgusting? I'd rather not find myself in a situation where I might be confronted with a sight that might make me feel sick every time I turn around...
Well, that's called "keep it to yourself and just don't go if you don't like it."
That's my point though, if you were like that, you'd want to know whether the hardcore scene attracts a lot of pillow biters or not, so the question is valid.
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Posted - 2007/09/23 : 19:57:31
omg this is gettin stupid. If you arent mature enough to accept people for who they are, then stay in your house, lock all doors and windows, draw the curtains and never been seen again, then you'll be fine.
So those who have a problem with homosexual people going to a rave, what are you going to complain about next, race ? Religion ? Because they wear a certain brand of shoe ?
ffs grow up, ya not there to explorer your sexuality, you are there for the music n atmosphere, and with all this ANTI talk, nice ****ing atmosphere you are going to produce.
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Posted - 2007/09/24 : 11:54:59
Levzi, i gotta be honest with you man, it was all very above board and topical before you brought up homophobia. Sorry!
I'm not gonna get into any of that, but what i would say is first i agree with the first couple of points pope C XXIII made on the first page (but then i got lazy and couldn't be arsed to read the rest  . All I'd like to add is with the candy nature and wearing all the coloured beads etc, its not unlike the gay and lesbian festivals that are awash with luminescent colours. The happy, happy, cheessy, gonna make me throw up vibes are appealing to people with a extravert personalities (not just referring to gay people) and in raves like that, people definitely can feel a lot more comfortable and open about how they are and i think that's a good thing for them. I'm straight and would never do anything homosexual but i have some gay mates and i couldn't care less what they do when they go out. Doesn't hurt me.
This is gonna sound like a bit of a dig so bear with me here, but there are gay people that listen to hip hop and r&b but, and i'm sure many would agree with me here, if they went to these clubs with such an open extravert attitude towards it, they would probably end up being attacked. The sad thing is that this really is no exaggeration. I don't mean to stereotype but whatever anyone wants to say, as far as each of my experiences have taught me, there is far more attitude and tension in clubs that play hip hop etc that emphasize things like riches, shooting people for no reason and f*****g bitches. The loud, really camp, and in your face gay people you see at some raves if they carried on like that in a rap club, they would get hurt. i'd bet money on it.
If you can't be arsed to read all that, which i couldn't blame you for, in a nut shell, i think the rave scene attracts a lot of gay people because of how relaxed the atmosphere is so people can just be themselves.
I dress like a bloody Jester when i go to raves, if i did they any where else i'd get battered! i'd expect it! same with gay people pushing their choices in people's faces. It really angers some people but raves are just relaxed. I don't think its just the music. Its the party style and its the freedom of expression which would be frowned upon in other places. That's what my guess would be though.
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Posted - 2007/09/24 : 12:58:13
Erm the whole topic is based on homophobia.
Its about ppl not liking homosexual activity at a rave.
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Posted - 2007/09/24 : 13:02:00
first of all, no need to be rude, i wasn't being rude to you, the least you can do is be an adult and extend the same courtesy. second of all the topic is not about homophobia, it is asking about the amount of gay people in raves and if it is asimilated in other areas of the world, read the inital post.
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I appreciate you editing that post. Thank you.
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Posted - 2007/09/24 : 13:31:42
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Originally posted by alex_e:
i don't know how this works in the rest of the world, but in toronto i've noticed (more recently than in past years) the hardcore scene (not sure about other "rave scenes") attracting a large less-than-heterosexual crowd of people.
is this the same in other areas in the world?
i've had this discussion with friends before, and it seems to be an unanswerable question. is the scene appealing for people with alternative sexual tastes, OR is it that there are more people way than we think, they just don't say it/act on it, but when they do certain inhibition-reducing substances they act on such feelings.
re-reading that, it sounds confusing... but can anyone care to shed some light on the subject?
And that didnt incite homophobic responses ? lol
Im afraid it did, and in case you are unaware, none of this thread means anything anyway. Who cares who goes to a rave, gay, bi, whatever.
I only edited it, cos I cba arguing with a jester ;)
*edit* I love jenks avatar.
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Posted - 2007/09/24 : 14:01:52
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ii'll be the first one to admit that i've kissed someone of the same sex before, and i don't think that makes me any less straight
hahahahahhahahahhahhahahahhahahahahhahahahhahah
keep telling your self that just stay away form my shirt:P
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Posted - 2007/09/24 : 17:02:43
The rave scene is about acceptance towards anyone regardless of sexuality, race, religion or sex. Im surprised this is even getting asked on a HARDCORE forum. wtf?
Im not gay, i dont want to see gay people kissing, but its their own perogative to do so, and in my mind theyre jsut as welcome as anyone else at a rave. I dont care who you are, what you do, what you're about, if you have love for hardcore ive got love for you. Thats what its about.
Plus honestly if anyone is complaining about having to share a rave with homosexual people, then maybe you should grow up a bit and start actually being ****ing mature and accepting people for people, regardless of their skin, or sexuality/religion.
Basically waht jester said, i think. Or levzi... sorry guys i fully cant remember...
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Posted - 2007/09/24 : 18:40:43
Well according to Jester I started the homophobic business. Which I didnt, the thread itself was basically about tolerance towards gay people at a rave, nothing to do with it being a more popular fashion.
I pointed out exactly what influx said, and basically who gives a flying **** who goes to a rave. Beers Steers and Queers so what, i'll be the one off my nut, having a blast n enjoying myself, talking to everyone and trying very hard to stay awake at 5 in the morning (Old Age awwww)
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Posted - 2007/09/24 : 22:04:38
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Originally posted by LeVzi:
omg this is gettin stupid. If you arent mature enough to accept people for who they are, then stay in your house, lock all doors and windows, draw the curtains and never been seen again, then you'll be fine.
It's not a case of maturity or acceptance, two consenting adults can do what they like, it doesn't mean I want to see it.
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So those who have a problem with homosexual people going to a rave, what are you going to complain about next, race ? Religion ? Because they wear a certain brand of shoe ?
Who's complaining? Religion is a good one though, I'll complain about that to anyone who will listen.
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ffs grow up, ya not there to explorer your sexuality, you are there for the music n atmosphere, and with all this ANTI talk, nice ****ing atmosphere you are going to produce.
Exactly.
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