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Future_Shock
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Is it just me or does anyone else find these REALLY interesting?

For those who dont know what a paradox is - its something that has no REAL logical definite answer. For example:

If a man walks up to you and says "Everything i am saying to you is a lie" ... is he telling the truth or is he lying?

Anyone else got any good ones?


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like if time machines existed and i went back in time to save my own life...? that wouldent have any logic



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If there is an exception to every rule, then every rule must have at least one exception, so is there an exception to the rule that states that there is an exception to every rule?



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Edited by - Jay-Owen on 2008/01/08 22:45:59
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Can an omnipotent being create a rule that it can't break?

If no, then it's not omnipotent. If yes, then it's not omnipotent.




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Pope C XXIII
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quote:
Originally posted by Jay-Owen:
If there is an exception to every rule, then every rule must have at least one exception, so is there an exception to the rule that states that there is an exception to every rule?



Yes, assuming it is a rule.

Yaay ruining the fun with logic. :D


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Jay-Owen
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Smartarse =]



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you mean something like this?

cant remember the exact details but...
there is a law of physics which states that producing energy from nothing is impossible (i think it was derived from the mass energy equivalency crap). for this reason it is impossible to create a perpetual motion machine, because, as a machine, friction is created, slowing down the motion. so the point of a perpetual motion machine is to create enough energy from nothing to counter the friction and keep the object in motion.

now here is where the paradox sets itself down.
a while back there were two central theories on the expansion of the universe.
1. the universe would finish expanding and then collapse to form a 'big crunch' (incredible display of imagination there).
2. the universe would continue to expand indefinately to a point where gravity or whatever was holding the universe together could no longer contain it.

what these scientists did not expect was that the universe would continue to expand indefinately, while simultaneously the rate of expansion was accelerating. ie using energy that was produced from nothing.

this suggests the abilty to create a perpetual motion machine.

noone really knows why this phenomena occurs, people guess and theorise but they never really know. the accepted theory is that there is 'dark matter' or some shit out there supplying the energy to the expansion.

imho the problem lies with einstiens theories of relativity and his work in equating universal laws of motion with newtons local laws of motion. no disrespect to the kid he brought scientific thinking a long way and out of a huge rut and has done more for science than anyone else in the last century or so, but my belief is that somewhere he made a small error that someone will pick up on in a couple of hundred years and sort everything straight.

if i havemadeanymistakes here can someone please pull me up on them


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nearly in line....
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half empty/half full


most obvios answer: i have no clue




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if you want what is in the glass it is half empty, cause you would rather have more, but if you don't want it then it's half full, cause you'd rather have less.



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quote:
Originally posted by xpinkyogurtx:
half empty/half full


most obvios answer: i have no clue



thats not really a paradox. if you look at it it's exactly the same thing


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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by xpinkyogurtx:
half empty/half full


most obvios answer: i have no clue



thats not really a paradox. if you look at it it's exactly the same thing

yeah, it's more an opinion, and same thing.

I could just never deicde, maybe thts why?




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hardly any one says half empty.
half full seems more linear and correct.


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ahh but say you were at a bbq and there are 12 beers left in your case, then you'd be saying it was half empty



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touché ;)

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If we have evolved from apes, then why do apes still exist today? Not sure if it's a paradox but still interests me.

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quote:
Originally posted by whittle1:
If we have evolved from apes, then why do apes still exist today? Not sure if it's a paradox but still interests me.



Because the biological niche the other apes filled still exists.


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