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Analog Dreams
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Posted - 2008/02/07 :  20:40:47  Show profile Send a private message
Hey whats up, i've been mixing hardcore for a while now, I don't have too much trouble beatmatching or anything, it's really the phrasing and eqing that I need some help on. What I usually do is wait for the chorus of the track, I let the incoming track go and let it play for 32 beats in my headphones making adjustments, then I bring it in with the bass cut, I let then both play for 32, 32, 32, and then I swap the basses when the chorus ends on the outgoing track...is this correct? Do you guys have any tips...I'd really appreciate the help.

Also, lets say track one's kick is going, and track two's kick stop and theres no beat at all on the second track but the song is still playing, can I let them stay mixed, or can they only be mixed when the beats are going on both of them?

Any other tips for mixing hardcore would be appreciated...thanks...peace!


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Posted - 2008/02/07 :  21:15:16  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Mortis's homepage
The way you've told it there is that you mix the same way for each track regardless of it's structure. You need to know your tracks inside out as each track has a different structure and can be qued in at different times each time you play it and each track has a different outro too.

Don't stick to the same formula all of the time.


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Analog Dreams
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Posted - 2008/02/07 :  21:24:10  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Analog Dreams's homepage
So what are some other ways to do it? Maybe instead of having a long transition, I can just cut the outgoing track right away?



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Posted - 2008/02/07 :  22:14:49  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit tunnelrush's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by dj_diamond:
So what are some other ways to do it? Maybe instead of having a long transition, I can just cut the outgoing track right away?



You could literally do whatever you want. These are your masterpieces :D

It usually helps if you can record yourself. This is what'll help you get used to Eq'ing and fiddling with different techniqes.






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Yeah, don't stick to a structure...each song and each transition will require something different. That's the fun part! :D

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yeah man, djing is an art, there are no rules, just do whatever you want, as long as it sounds good then people will want to listen

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Edited by - redwingz on 2008/02/07 22:57:29
Pope C XXIII
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As other people have said, it's an art. You've gotta feel the rise and fall of the tunes and know them well. With some genres like UK Hardcore and a lot of modern drum n bass, the structure tends to be really really similar throughout tunes, so you can get away with mixing the same way every time, but it's not your best bet.

2. You can't just do a quick fade or long transition every time. It's all a matter of what feels right and what works.

3. If your incoming track's kicks stop, you can still mix into it (assuming you didn't just mess up the phrasing and cut into the middle of the breakdown.) So long as you're phrasing things right so that there's some build into the second track, you'll be fine.


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Posted - 2008/02/08 :  01:53:49  Show profile  Send a private message
the way I learned: go get a tape/cd of your favorite dj and listen to how they mix...then try to imitate those mixes yourself.

I never count measures, that just screwed me up sitting there trying to count =P


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Analog Dreams
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Posted - 2008/02/08 :  05:21:23  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Analog Dreams's homepage
Thanks for all the help guys. It's not actually that much of a problem, I'm just a perfectionist, and I get annoyed when everything isn't perfect.



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