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redwingz
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 Posted - 2008/02/18 : 13:26:04
This may sound really dumb, but ive recently got new decks (dumped the shitty belt drives) and some of the time i manage to beat match really well n it sounds good, but other times i just cannot match the beats at all no matter how hard i try. Does anyone have any tips on matching beats? i find it hard to tell which beat is quicker. Also how long did it take u guys to get to the point were beat matching was not a problem?
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SPOOX
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Posted - 2008/02/18 : 15:08:14
When i started i would get a couple of records that you would normally play on 45. Slow them down to 33 & mix them like that. Because they are playing slower you will find you can match the beats up easier. When you get the hang of it properly then just speed them up to normal speed. Also adjust what you hear through the headphones. Make sure you can hear both tracks. I usually have the volume slightly louder for the track i'm mixing in.
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redwingz
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Posted - 2008/02/18 : 15:16:22
yeah cheers, ill give that a go. Im definitely getting better. Just as a pointer, The pitch control on the turntable, how far away from 0 do you normally move them? Like is it always around -1 to 1 to mix most tracks or like -5 to 5?
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Smoogie
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 Posted - 2008/02/18 : 15:20:32
It is differnt for me as I mix with CDs but am slow getting the hang of it! A jnew mix is in the works so keep your eyes open for updates!
Good luck yourself! Try to upload somthing when you get the time to!
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Brian K
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Posted - 2008/02/19 : 01:50:13
quote:
Originally posted by redwingz:
yeah cheers, ill give that a go. Im definitely getting better. Just as a pointer, The pitch control on the turntable, how far away from 0 do you normally move them? Like is it always around -1 to 1 to mix most tracks or like -5 to 5?
depends on the track, some labels will print most of their stuff around the same tempo
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Leto
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Posted - 2008/02/19 : 02:22:37
Yeah, most hardcore is either 170 or 175 BPM. So, for example, you had a song at +6 and it was 170 BPM, then the 175 would be mixed at +3. So, watch out for stuff like that...
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NeXuS
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Posted - 2008/02/19 : 03:58:38
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Originally posted by redwingz:
i find it hard to tell which beat is quicker
This is done easiest when you already "know" your tracks before hand. Meaning you have been playing these tracks for a while and know their sounds inside n out. You will then be able to pick out the sounds and know which track they belong to.
Other than that, my only suggestion would be to keep at it and in time you will develop your own style. No 2 DJ's styles are exactly the same and Im sure everyone learned it in their own way.
When you que up a record and start it off to start beatmatching I assume the beats are matched the moment you release the que'd track. Going from this just keep listening to the que'd track to hear if it falls behind or is too fast. From there keep making your adjustments and in time you will get the hang of it.
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DJ Arace
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Posted - 2008/02/19 : 04:39:40
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Originally posted by redwingz:
i find it hard to tell which beat is quicker.
a trick i found helps is to take the pitch control and slide it all the way both ways so you can hear the new song going in and out of match, this allows you to hear it speed up and slow down... make distinguishing the beats so much easier, that and a neat feature on my mixer is a crossfader style headphone channel selector, and i make the new track louder than the previous one...
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redwingz
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Posted - 2008/02/19 : 12:05:44
Well thanks for the tips and advice everyone, i will keep plugging away lol.
And yeah smoogie, im hoping to upload a mix within the next 2/3 weeks. I wanted it done earlier but im just havin problems getting used to my new set up.
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Relish
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Posted - 2008/02/19 : 12:45:37
a little tip that i came up with (although everyone else could be doing it, not too sure)
if you've got a breakdown and your not sure when its gonna drop (could be a trancey tune or a long stretched out sample etc) hold the tune your pitching on the 2nd beat, then you can wait til you hear the first beat of the tune out loud and then drop your 2nd tune so they're both in synch with each other.
hope that makes a bit of sense
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Dain-Ja
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Posted - 2008/02/19 : 18:21:19
how to learn quickly:
-take two copies of the same record (or two records at the exact same speed)
-set both pitch faders to the same thing
-play both channels at full blast on the mixer
-line up the beats using only the pitch fader on one of the turntables (notch it up and bring it back where it was...if that makes the trainwreck worse, notch it down and bring it back where it was...rinse, repeat)
that will give you the "ear" for what you ahve to do and develop the "reflex" of speeding up or slowing down
once you can do that you can beatmatch any records
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xpinkyogurtx
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Posted - 2008/02/20 : 14:58:51
these are all awesome tips, i just complete my set up a few days ago, an its tough, but these are deff great.
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