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PIONEER DJM vs. DENON Mixers?

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Complexion
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Posted - 2008/04/20 :  11:36:59  Show profile Send a private message
Hmmmm just wondering which one is better?

Cause I heard that the Pioneer has a -26db cut on the EQ's where Denon mixers have -46 or something.



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Posted - 2008/04/20 :  21:04:22  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit djbuzz1021's homepage
Here is the spec of the pionner

DJM-800 Performance Mixer / DJ Mixer description:

The Pioneer DJM-800 Digital Mixer 4 Channel 96kHz/24bit Blends MIDI Compatibility & Innovative ‘Sound Colour' Effects

The Pioneer DJM-800 is a professional-grade DJ mixer. Pure fidelity is delivered by the hi-end 96kHz/24 bit A/D converter that's complemented by 61 assignable MIDI control channels and a landmark innovation, ‘Harmonic Mixing' capability – that detects a track's key and automatically aligns it to the closest true key, removing inaccuracies created when adjusting the pitch. With digital connectivity, a large bright dot matrix display and a wide a range of high quality effects, the DJM-800 enables DJs to perfect pristine mixing.

Sonic purity is a given from Pioneer and the DJM-800 inherits the high fidelity technology of its big brother, the DJM-1000. The analogue signal from the player is immediately digitised (through the shortest possible route) by a pro A/D converter at 96kHz/24bit, reaching the ultra-powerful (32bit) Digital Signal Processor without deterioration of quality.

Digital inputs and outputs support transparent signal processing between Pioneer's CDJ and DVJ series of digital decks delivering immaculate audio quality. With i nput frequencies of 44.1/48/96kHz and selectable output frequencies of between 48/96kHz it's a perfect mixer not only for the club professional but also recording studios where high fidelity sound is required.

In keeping with Pioneer's relentless drive for innovation it has complemented its familiar effects with some new techniques for a package that includes: Echo, Delay, Reverse Delay, Pan, Transform, Filter, Flanger, Phaser, Reverb, Robot, Chorus, Roll and Reverse Roll. T he effects automatically detect the BPM of the music and sync to the beats. In conjunction with the additional Digital Beat Effects, 50 combinations of effects are possible.

The DJM-800 has a rigid chassis for minimizing unnecessary vibration that could adversely affect sound quality. It is based on the same layout and footprint as the DJM-600, providing the natural and familiar feel known to DJs across the world. It also incorporates a dual-shield structure for eliminating entry of digital noise and a high performance power supply.

Pioneer DJM-800 main features include:

* Cross fader assign: to assign each channel's input to the cross fader
* Fader curve adjust: to change the cross fader/channel fader curve
* Fader start: connect a Pioneer CDJ player with a control cable and playback can be started by simply sliding the cross fader or channel fader
* 3-Band Equalizer: a built-in equalizer on each channel enables level control within a –26dB to +6dB range for high, mid & low bands, respectively
* Talk over: automatically attenuates the volume by -20db so an MC can talk over the track
* Mic signal cut: Eliminates the microphone sound output to the booth monitor to prevent feedback
* Peak level meter: Check the peak level of the input audio for each channel as well as the master
* Master output rotary knob
* Master output attenuation switch
* Twin mic level adjustment
* Inputs: CD/LINE x 5 (RCA), PHONO x 3 (RCA), DIGITAL IN x 4 (COAXIAL S/PDIF), MIC x 2 (XLR / 1/4in combo x 1, 1/4in x 1)
* Outputs: MASTER OUT x 2 (RCA x 1, XLR x 1), BOOTH OUT x 1 (1/4in) HEADPHONE MONITOR OUT x 1 (TOP PANEL 1/4in), REC OUT x 1 (RCA), DIGITAL OUT x 1 (COAXIAL S/PDIF)
* Other Connections: SEND x 1 (1/4in), RETURN x 1 (1/4in), MIDI OUT x 1 (5pin DIN), CONTROL x 4 (3.5mm MINI JACK)
* Frequency Response 20Hz - 20kHz
* Total Harmonic Distortion 0.005% or less
* Signal-to-Noise Ratio 104dB(LINE)
* Power Requirements AC 220/240 V, (50/60Hz)
* Power Consumption 30W
* Dimensions 12.6” (W) x 15” (D) x 4.25” (H) // 320 (W) x 381(D) x 108 (H) mm
* Net Weight 7.5 kg


Now the Denon

Denon DNX1500 S Mixer

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Metallic Silver faceplate finish
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Matrix input
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3-Band Parametric EQ
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High Performance Flex Fader w/tension adjustment
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Huge headroom. No distortion
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8 Sec Sampler
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9 Internal digital effects
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Cross Fader/Channel Fader Start
*
USB port, World's First

Matrix Input Assignment
Eight input sources are freely assignable to any channel. This opens up a world of creativity utilizing the same source for multichannel effect remixing.

Flex Fader –45mm Professional Cross Fader with Tension Torque Adjustment
- Linear Contour Control
- Exceptional electrical and mechanical performance
- Stainless steel slide rails
- Tension torque adjustment 0 to 50g · cm
- Endurance-tested contacts

Sampler (CD Quality Sound)
The sampler utilizes audio from any of six mixer sources (Ch 1/2/3/4, Mic, Master) and offers edit options including Loop, Reverse Loop, Stutter, Single Playback and A-B Trim with overall Pitch Control adjustment of up to ±100%.

Internal Digital Effects
Delay, Echo1, Echo2, Filter 1, Filter 2, Flanger, Auto Pan, Trans, and Key % over Ch1/Ch2/Ch3/Ch4/Main Mic/Master – all with pre-cueing option and convenient Dry/Wet mix control knob.

3-Way BPM Counter
- Auto/TAP/Manual Input – This 3 way system was developed to ensure that the on-board effects are precisely synced with the music.

Cross Fader Start and Channel Fader Start
Cross and Channel Fader Start Trigger is possible and compatible with all of Denon DJ\'s CD/MP3 players as well as most other brands.

Constant Digital Output: 44.1 kHz, SPDIF
The DN-X1500S allows you to record directly to CD-R or hard disc device via coaxial digital output terminal.

Stereo Send/Return Terminals for external effects processor. External and internal effects can be used simultaneously.

3-band EQ (On/Off Switchable) with parametric frequency adjustment.
Main Mic and Aux Mic Inputs (Neutrix combo and 1/4\") with Main and Aux/Sub level control and EQ.

Pre Fader Levels (PFL) for Each Channel
All input channel levels can be pre-adjusted to match output level meter ensuring a smooth transition between fades.

OTHER FEATURES

Mic Post Feature
Passes the Mic signal into BOOTH, REC or DIGITAL output signal path. A great feature to avoid feedback in the DJ booth or unwanted announcements on your recordings.

Preset Function
It is possible to customize the machine to your preference by saving your favorite setting to internal memory.
Headphone Output selector (Split Cue)

Booth Output
You are able to pre-monitor any channel and effect through the booth output in the same manner as you would with your headphones, only out loud!



Hope this helps bud.

Buzz


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