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stretchyd
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 Posted - 2008/06/05 : 14:18:51
Are the likes of Sy, Ramos, Seduction, Slipmatt, Dougal, Brisk, Clarkee etc still the main crowd pullers or is it the newer guys n gals coming in?
The same with the MC's, is it still Sharkey, Smiler, Ribbz, Magika, Stixman, Bassman, Robbie Dee etc?
I know I'm out of touch!!
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bulby_g
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Posted - 2008/06/05 : 14:24:10
Just take a look at a recent Slammin' or HTID flier. ;)
Most of the DJ's you listed still have frequent bookings in Hardcore but most of the MC's don't.
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stretchyd
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Posted - 2008/06/05 : 14:37:38
I see. So who is the better DJ's nowadays mixing wise?
I like a DJ who (like me!) chops the **** out of tunes and also I like the prolonged beat mixing aka Brisk
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Posted - 2008/06/05 : 14:46:45
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Originally posted by stretchyd:
I see. So who is the better DJ's nowadays mixing wise?
I like a DJ who (like me!) chops the **** out of tunes
Not many mix hardcore like that these days ;) Is all long, smooth transitions. Kutski is one though.
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Posted - 2008/06/05 : 15:15:06
Is that because there is too much vocal going on and childish synths/riffs?
I would love to get hold of 50,000 Watts and Floor Burn as I would mix the poo out of 'em!
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Ken Masters
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Posted - 2008/06/05 : 15:24:57
I couldn't agree with you more mate, far too many vocals (and really bad ones at that) & a lot of poofy synths. I think a lot of DJ's these days are afraid to use the decks for cutting & sratching they just stick to seemless mixing. You might aswell put a CD on but i'm glad the hardcore scene hasn't got as bad as the Dance scene in Ibiza(mixing wise). Now those guy's might aswell just put on a CD because there is no deck skills what so ever. Quite a sad state of affairs, after all I would say I like original house more than hardcore. Especially Chicago House. The foundations of what we call dance music today.
If you're a bit of touch with the scene nowadays mate, I advise you buy the Hardcore Heaven 1,2 & 3cd's, throw cd's 1&2 away & enjoy the awesome talent of Kev Energy. If it wasn't for Kev then there wouldn't be many dj's pushing thier skill on the decks today. Trust me mate, the guy is a God Send!
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bulby_g
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Posted - 2008/06/05 : 16:44:49
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I couldn't agree with you more mate, far too many vocals (and really bad ones at that) & a lot of poofy synths. I think a lot of DJ's these days are afraid to use the decks for cutting & sratching they just stick to seemless mixing. You might aswell put a CD on but i'm glad the hardcore scene hasn't got as bad as the Dance scene in Ibiza(mixing wise). Now those guy's might aswell just put on a CD because there is no deck skills what so ever. Quite a sad state of affairs, after all I would say I like original house more than hardcore. Especially Chicago House. The foundations of what we call dance music today.
If you're a bit of touch with the scene nowadays mate, I advise you buy the Hardcore Heaven 1,2 & 3cd's, throw cd's 1&2 away & enjoy the awesome talent of Kev Energy. If it wasn't for Kev then there wouldn't be many dj's pushing thier skill on the decks today. Trust me mate, the guy is a God Send!
He's good but his scratching and spin backs are a bit much for me. :( Always great tracks and mixing though... and his scratching has got a little more varied.
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Chris B
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Posted - 2008/06/05 : 16:58:33
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but i'm glad the hardcore scene hasn't got as bad as the Dance scene in Ibiza(mixing wise). Now those guy's might aswell just put on a CD because there is no deck skills what so ever.
No way man see the things people like james zabiela do with effects and stuff on tracks, is unbelievable. Also people like Carl Cox, Danny Tenaglia, Dave Clarke etc all so shitloads of stuff in there mixes, very technically telented people. Anno a lot of club music dj's mix jus in and out but seriously theres a lot of talent in techno.
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Quite a sad state of affairs, after all I would say I like original house more than hardcore. Especially Chicago House. The foundations of what we call dance music today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYO7RfpMVm8
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Ken Masters
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Posted - 2008/06/05 : 17:16:16
I know these guy's are very talented & that is pretty obvious but the tracks they make are very CD orientated. They are made to be mixed on CD's and use CD effects &, to me, this is killing dance music. Most tracks are layed out very similar with those same huge build ups that just drop back down to the same rhythm. I like this club sound but when you hear it everywhere you go in Ibiza it starts to do my head in! I seen Carl Cox in Space last year & paid great attention to his set.(I don't take anything apart from drink & weed) so I was a prety good judge, & it seems to me that dance music has lost it's euphoric edge, you know what I mean. Very flat & uninspiring! But if you checkout Carl Cox back at Fantazia the Big Bang 92' you'll realise what connecting with the crowd really is. Not just waving your arms around in the air as if your doing somthing!
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Chris B
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Posted - 2008/06/05 : 17:41:08
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Originally posted by narcotik:
I know these guy's are very talented & that is pretty obvious but the tracks they make are very CD orientated. They are made to be mixed on CD's and use CD effects &, to me, this is killing dance music.
I can see what you mean especially with the bigger room club music, but i like the beat repeating stuff and effects.
Dance musics very broad at the minute, from this minimal club stuff through to people like aphex twin and venetian snares, hardcore techno lot and underground dnb. Not all bland commercial shit for cd-jays just need to get out to diff parties
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Most tracks are layed out very similar with those same huge build ups that just drop back down to the same rhythm. I like this club sound but when you hear it everywhere you go in Ibiza it starts to do my head in!
yeah i think minimal has kinda taken over a lot of way and i find it boring after a while, like everything is a fashion and is the sound thats in at minute. anno exactly what you mean though is pretty dull music especially when your used to stuff happenin all the time like with rave in general.
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I seen Carl Cox in Space last year & paid great attention to his set.(I don't take anything apart from drink & weed) so I was a prety good judge, & it seems to me that dance music has lost it's euphoric edge, you know what I mean. Very flat & uninspiring! But if you checkout Carl Cox back at Fantazia the Big Bang 92' you'll realise what connecting with the crowd really is. Not just waving your arms around in the air as if your doing somthing!
See i can enjoy Carl Cox sets right the way through he's got a really smoothe style of changin from housey stuff to tough techno and back, same as he used to do with old breakbeat to bouncy techno etc. he's f*ckin ace in general not one to jus blend tracks in and stay the same through his sets.
I got ibiza for first week of Danny Tenaglia last year as hes my fav house/techno dj and seriously you cant say he doesnt put some effort in his mixes. Was playing techno instead of usual tribal and was absolutely rockin, loadsa old hip hop accapellas over mixes, big breakdowns, dancing on the stage leaving two tunes mixing. Just a great show and went for 6 hours goin through allsorts of music.
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 Posted - 2008/06/05 : 17:45:49
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I couldn't agree with you more mate, far too many vocals (and really bad ones at that) & a lot of poofy synths.
Cannonball is the worse track ever imo lol
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Ken Masters
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Posted - 2008/06/05 : 17:50:08
yeah mate, I really like Danny Tenaglia. I've got a few of his Global Underground CD's & they are awesome but I suppose they're a bit outdated now. I haven't heard much of his recent stuff though. I'll have to check that out!
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