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Lilley
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Posted - 2008/08/08 : 09:21:46
Thats right, 15 million eccys taken from across four states in the worlds biggest seize ever this morning
thats a bloody lot bout $350 mill worth
at a rate of one every two hours, one person would go through them in 3500 years
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Posted - 2008/08/08 : 09:23:35
Oh no, you have the news link anywhere?
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DarrenJ
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Posted - 2008/08/08 : 09:49:25
http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5gUOb6k5uu6wiqkO9R9nPRLWkcY2Q 4 tons worth
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kathryn
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Posted - 2008/08/08 : 11:17:49
Good to get the shite of the streets hey?
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djbuzz1021
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Posted - 2008/08/08 : 12:16:29
well if u think about it a pill only weighs like 0.2 of a gram so thats lot op pills lol :) bet someone ait a happy bunny lol
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Lilley
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Posted - 2008/08/08 : 16:10:10
the problem is evry dealer in the country is gona be trying to get rid of all their pills and tons of bad pills are gona hit the market. not gona be able to get anything clean for the next year or so
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Vitalism
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Posted - 2008/08/08 : 17:02:07
you say that as though australians are consuming a "clean" street drug at this point in time.
drugs are dirty period. some are dirtier than others though.
quote: Originally posted by Lilley:
the problem is evry dealer in the country is gona be trying to get rid of all their pills and tons of bad pills are gona hit the market. not gona be able to get anything clean for the next year or so
i do understand what you're talking about and that does suck in a way; that all the dealers will be asking an arm and a leg for their shittier stuff. i read another article from the posed link and thought this was funny:
The fact many of the pills had a kangaroo logo is of concern as it indicates an international organised crime gang has manufactured ecstasy specifically for the Australian market
oooh, take personal offense australia! those have been in canada (and i'm sure everywhere else) too for years.
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Posted - 2008/08/08 : 17:37:57
There's a way for everything.
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__CMC__
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Posted - 2008/08/08 : 18:55:58
quote: Originally posted by Lilley:
the problem is evry dealer in the country is gona be trying to get rid of all their pills and tons of bad pills are gona hit the market. not gona be able to get anything clean for the next year or so
Pills are shite nowadays stick to the mdma:)
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Future_Shock
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Posted - 2008/08/08 : 22:54:35
quote: Originally posted by Vitalism:
you say that as though australians are consuming a "clean" street drug at this point in time.
drugs are dirty period. some are dirtier than others though.
quote: Originally posted by Lilley:
the problem is evry dealer in the country is gona be trying to get rid of all their pills and tons of bad pills are gona hit the market. not gona be able to get anything clean for the next year or so
i do understand what you're talking about and that does suck in a way; that all the dealers will be asking an arm and a leg for their shittier stuff. i read another article from the posed link and thought this was funny:
The fact many of the pills had a kangaroo logo is of concern as it indicates an international organised crime gang has manufactured ecstasy specifically for the Australian market
oooh, take personal offense australia! those have been in canada (and i'm sure everywhere else) too for years.
ACTUALLY,
Because it was so hard to import to australia/not worth it, a lot of our drug market hasn't been "influenced" by already existing markets, which have turned to shite.
For a good couple of years, australia (compared to the rest of the world) had an impeccable record for "clean" drugs. Thats not to say EVERY drug was clean, but you had a much larger chance of receiving something clean, which increased when yuo knew who you were buying from (trusted dealers with good reputations).
I have noticed since about 2005 that ecstasy specifically has had a massive slump in quality. Sure there have been some good brands, but compared to pre-2005 it now sucks and you can pretty much assume you'll get a pretty average pill.
And yes, we will take offence to that, just as everyone else would have the first time someone specifically targeted their country for shit drugs. Just because you've received shit drugs for longer, doesnt mean that its less offensive - you're just used to it.
I agree with lilley, Now that market is going to be FLOODED with notoriously bad drugs, and thats not just a concern with having a good time, thats a concern that people will also get hurt, and has increased every drug-takers chances of having a bad experience, and a concern for a country that until recently had a very good track record for clean drugs.
So say what you want, but really, because you don't live here, its pretty shit for you to make a personal comment about something you know nothing about.
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Vitalism
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Posted - 2008/08/09 : 08:10:27
learn to read, matey.
i was talking about australia taking offense to the kangaroo logo. see the italics.
here's a suggestion, don't do drugs for a while. it couldn't hurt.
drugs have been getting shittier and shittier, it's a fact of life. they're never going to be as good as they were in 2005 or 2002 or the 90's. who is to say that the ones that got seized were good at all? they could have been pure shit.
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__CMC__
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Posted - 2008/08/09 : 12:21:13
quote: Originally posted by Vitalism:
drugs have been getting shittier and shittier, it's a fact of life.
Although thats correct for E's for other drugs its simply not true! MDMA is as pure as it can be and there has be no decrease in quality there, the cocaine that you buy on the street is purer than ever before due to the amount of supply there is most people wont be cutting it as much as before and the green i have been smoking is top notch shit!
You are buying shit drugs? Find another supplier:)
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Vitalism
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Posted - 2008/08/10 : 06:28:36
i don't do those types of things anymore anyway so i wouldn't know, that's also the reason i stopped: bad quality. my opinion is that drugs are getting progressively getting worse, you can say what you want.
it just bothers me that there's no quality control at all and that some schmuck can put anything he wants to in it. drugs get cut every time they switch hands, i say.
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Lilley
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Posted - 2008/08/10 : 09:39:57
quote: Originally posted by __CMC__:
MDMA is as pure as it can be and there has be no decrease in quality there
thats because mdma is a chemical mate, its either pure or its not mdma, really the only way to make sure your having mdma is to make it yourself
to vitalism: the only thing that borders australia is water, which makes it quite hard to import stuff. most eccys are home grown not made by some drug cartel in south america, and therefore much better chance of quality.
not sure about other countries but the way it usually works over here is that if someone has a bad pill they tell other people not to buy it, and funnily enough it doesnt get bought.
with much less supply (of good or bad ills) the pillheads are gona be falling back to whatever is left over - the bad ones
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SixFeet
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Posted - 2008/08/10 : 10:02:26
quote: Originally posted by Lilley:
to vitalism: the only thing that borders australia is water, which makes it quite hard to import stuff. most eccys are home grown not made by some drug cartel in south america, and therefore much better chance of quality.
That statement is pure stupidity.
Because Aussie dealers are so much more trustworthy than Latino Americans....
Drug dealers are drug dealers, some cut some don't. Where they from has nothing to do with it.
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Future_Shock
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Posted - 2008/08/10 : 10:58:36
quote: Originally posted by SixFeet:
quote: Originally posted by Lilley:
to vitalism: the only thing that borders australia is water, which makes it quite hard to import stuff. most eccys are home grown not made by some drug cartel in south america, and therefore much better chance of quality.
That statement is pure stupidity.
Because Aussie dealers are so much more trustworthy than Latino Americans....
Drug dealers are drug dealers, some cut some don't. Where they from has nothing to do with it.
You missed the point entirely.
He wasnt being specific to latino americans he just used them as an example.
Hvaing a largely based domestic market for drugs means that if a supplier continuously gives bad product, and dealers cant sell it, because people dont buy bad pills here coz they are uncommon, Then they're soon not going to be making any money.
Look at the facts. MDMA is more expensive to make than the rest of the chemicals that can be commonly found with "dirty" pills. It costs a significantly higher amount to ship good product to Australia seeing as we are far out of the reach of almost every country except Asian countries and ecstasy doesnt predominatly come from there.
Therefore, people ship BAD quality stuff here in order to maximize their profit margin. This is an unfortunate as they never sell, and i have no doubt people have tried it before and ha dshit loads of product left over that they couldnt get rid of.
In sch a small country where most of our drugs are domestic, bad quality pills just dont fly here. People don't take them and it doesnt take long to hear about what pills are good or bad when they come out in a new batch.
Drugs in australia is nothing like the UK. So many people ive known to go over to the UK... actually everyone ive ever known who has taken pills here and then in the uk have said the uk is utter shite for pills. Loaded with ketamine and takes hours to come up. We are used to coming up between 10 and 40 minutes and having a completely clean and smoothe ride.
Over the past couple of years there have been more overseas imports of ecstasy (the 15,000,000 that was seized was frim Italy) and subsequently over the past couple of years are pills have mostly turned to shite. I wonder why that is.
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