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old hardcore beter than new stuff??

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Brian K
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Posted - 2008/09/05 :  04:09:04  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Chris B:
Disagree there brian musics music at end of the day, i buzz off music that was around way before i got into it/raved etc. A lot of the music i used to rave to like makina/uk hardcore etc i very rarely listen to anymore.



ok well it holds true for me and most of the geriatric ravers I hang out with


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Posted - 2008/09/05 :  06:42:41  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit xvmoneyx's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by FingazMc:
i think the further back you go the better it gets with hardcore tbh.




I agree :)


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Torpex
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Posted - 2008/09/05 :  07:28:48  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Torpex's homepage  Reply with quote
The reason why most people prefer older stuff is because almost everyone is wired to appreciate their "entry" sound more than anything else. You know - shivers down your spine, goosebumps, ecstasy without E etc. For many people, including myself, it's such an intense experience that you're gonna value it higher than anything til you die. ;)

Of course there are exceptions. You might discover that some other kind of music (say, older hardcore) gives you a comparable or even bigger rush. You might simply get bored and start to appreciate a less familiar sound (say, older hardcore). But I've found that for the most part it's the "entry factor", pure and simple.

Oh and btw, today's hardcore is wicked. It's diverse (if you dig deep enough), it's well-produced and it's widely available. Let's appreciate it while we still can. :)


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95_was_the_time
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Posted - 2008/09/05 :  20:10:24  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit 95_was_the_time's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Torpex:
The reason why most people prefer older stuff is because almost everyone is wired to appreciate their "entry" sound more than anything else.




agreed, i still get shivers down my spine when i listen to the Dougal @ helterskelter mileniumjam set, cause that's the first tape and in actual fact, first time i heard this 'hardcore' music in my life, it was fresh to my ears and sort of alien to me, i still listen to that tape now. to me nothing can better it.


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Posted - 2008/09/05 :  23:07:42  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ Subconscious's homepage  Reply with quote
Totally agree with you on the entry point. I remember hearing hixxy spin at my 2nd rave. Him coming to arizona is a rarity. This was in 2004 so basically 2004-2008 is my favorite hardcore. Probably always will be. GOod post man

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Posted - 2008/09/06 :  00:28:39  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit warped_candykid's homepage  Reply with quote
I still dont get how pinkdevil is calling 2005 OLD Hardcore. Though, I guess there will come a time when we refer to 2000+ as "old skool" in the future.



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95_was_the_time
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Posted - 2008/09/06 :  01:10:12  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit 95_was_the_time's homepage  Reply with quote
90s hardcore = win

00s hardcore = fail

how do you even pronounce this decade anyway? noughties I guess.


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Chris B
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Posted - 2008/09/06 :  01:16:02  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Chris B's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brian K:
ok well it holds true for me and most of the geriatric ravers I hang out with




I'd more jus say you got into it at a good time. I started off listening to the old scottish stuff like ultrasonic, rhymic state, marc smith etc and had a good lot of dutch gabber and english happy tapes/cds aswell. Still listen the odd time for memories and is certain class tracks i'll always love and remember.

But at the same time the only stuff i regularly listen to now that i liked back then would be the mokums, ruffnecks and lenny dee sorta stuff. Nasenbluten i had no clue about back then and is some of my fav hardcore tracks now. Also listen to loads of old english breakbeat and jungle which i never listened to back then.

But yeah i still absolutely love the hardcore techno/hard dnb coming out just now as much as anything, is so much good stuff coming out and it just works when raving.

From this thread and many others see a lot of people sayin there fed up or disheartened with hardcore or how its going, been the same story for years. Said it before and will say it again if this is the case people need to try other things out, theres a lot of great rave music coming out and is 20 + years of history since acid house is just about geeking up and digging around. If you put all your faith in one sub genre dont be surprised if one day it changes in a way you dont like



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Edited by - Chris B on 2008/09/06 01:19:35
95_was_the_time
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Posted - 2008/09/06 :  01:33:05  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit 95_was_the_time's homepage  Reply with quote
i hate new hardcore

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Chris B
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Posted - 2008/09/06 :  02:03:28  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Chris B's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by 95_was_the_time:
i hate new hardcore



http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=63050019

not hardcore but whats your take on this boys work? ****in ace if you ask me kinda keepin with the old style

Also whats your opinions on hardcore techno from uk, deathchant etc stuff?


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Posted - 2008/09/06 :  08:34:30  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit latininxtc's homepage  Reply with quote
I personally don't think it's necessarily boring or anything, just that the songs these days don't leave a deep enough impression on you, that you are always out to find another new track to get into.

I'm sure most memorable, and famous tracks in hardcore or happy hardcore are what we consider anthems, such as shooting star, elysium, heart of gold, even slightly more updated stuff like angel eyes and fly with you. there is serious lack of anthem-quality tracks out there.

that's y i think people feel that the older stuff is better, and why the newer stuff can seem boring. i personally like both, but there are very few tracks that i'm seriously getting into. right now, tho, I am obsessed with that "No Barriers" track from the CLSM album download. i just listen to it over and over again, and people stare at me funny when i sing/rap/whatever to it.


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Mental_Adam
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Posted - 2008/09/06 :  10:13:59  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Mental_Adam's homepage  Reply with quote
I've been listening to alot of early 90's Hardcore at the moment. As i really have not got the taste buds for the current state of hardcore.

I find the releases coming out at the moment very disappointing except from the odd 1 or 2 releases but we've seen the tracks all before.

The new 'Pure Hardcore' release is another i feel dis-satisfied about. From 1st looks i think 'Oh, theres another fit bird on the cover'.


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