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Vinyl or Mp3 --- What makes a dj??

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DJLiight
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Posted - 2008/10/01 :  23:20:44  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJLiight's homepage  Reply with quote
Anything that characterizes the music in a different way and make sound collide & smooth is a DJ. Its not based on what you use. My opinion.



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Righteous9
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Posted - 2008/10/02 :  00:04:45  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Righteous9's homepage  Reply with quote
I prefer Vinyl, but I do own a ishload of MP3s, but I do not use CDJs, I just use MP3s for my LIVE 365 Station... Vinyl, is actually better sound quality then a CD! Unmixed CDs are your best bet for material like that, but like I said, I spin vinyl, and listen to MP3s!

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Righteous9
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Posted - 2008/10/02 :  00:08:52  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Righteous9's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wilky:
it all depends on what u call a DJ

in my eyes... hixxy isnt a DJ, other people love him, i think he's shite on any kind of decks



For me Raver Baby is the shit! Do I have to kill you by spinning "You're Shining" and "Heartbeats" in the same mix! HTID, my Mate!


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Edited by - Righteous9 on 2008/10/02 00:12:28
Brian K
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Posted - 2008/10/02 :  01:02:12  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
well if you consider vinyl more challenging what's wrong w/ using time coded vinyl to play mp3s on?

I use both, prefer vinyl because that's what I started on...and you can't get a lot of older stuff on mp3.

at the end of the day as long as the dj is able to amuse and not sound like two shoes in a dryer I don't think it matters


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Vitalism
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Posted - 2008/10/02 :  01:16:40  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Vitalism's homepage  Reply with quote
what makes a DJ? good track selection based on the best of both worlds, and solid beatmatching.

just know what you're doing.





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Audio X
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Posted - 2008/10/02 :  04:00:52  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit Audio X's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Righteous9:
Vinyl, is actually better sound quality then a CD!


False! A much cleaner sound is available through digital media, however the current trends in mastering tend to demolish the potential for such quality.



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DJ_FunDaBounce
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Posted - 2008/10/02 :  05:03:39  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ_FunDaBounce's homepage  Reply with quote
Vinyl makes it more legit in my opinion.That being said you all must know I spin both Vinyl AND CD in an attempt to keep up with the times.
The format issue though sometimes gets me down.I mean, I love Vinyl but it's expensive compared to mp3s yet If I switched to mp3 only how could I ever prove to anyone I legally purchased all my music?
I could've easily built up a collection without forking out a single cent(other than for internet access) in this day and age.

for the moment I've decided to fill my cd wallet with exclusive material(i.e. only stuff released on digital) and save up for the vinyl.

...at least I will try :P (can't help the urge to buy some fresh vinyl releases on mp3 every now and then)


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Vitalism
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Posted - 2008/10/02 :  05:40:59  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Vitalism's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by DJ_FunDaBounce:
...how could I ever prove to anyone I legally purchased all my music?



who would ever bring that into question unless you were playing crappy, ripped MP3s that you downloaded to an audience? if you were playing them live, they would sound like crap and people would notice.


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Posted - 2008/10/02 :  06:18:22  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Doughboy's homepage  Reply with quote
It doesnt really matter what you use, its how you use it. I have seen people do amazing things on either. The biggest thing is setting yourself apart from every other dj. Who cares if you are playing the rarest of records or the freshest stuff out there, if you can make people remember you then thats what make you the better dj.

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DJLiight
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Posted - 2008/10/02 :  07:39:44  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJLiight's homepage  Reply with quote
I use computer, cdjs & Vinyl for DJing. Computer is the easiest since it got Automatic beat matching. Doesnt make you any less of a DJ, its just technology has advanced over the years making things easier & better.

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Posted - 2008/10/02 :  09:33:37  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit pigz's homepage  Reply with quote
im a bit old skool and i love the feel of vinyl but ive also got loads of mp3's so i use timecoded vinyl and get the best of both worlds!!!! im soo glad they invented VDJ! wicked peice of kit and if you prefere CDJ's then it also has support for timecoded CD's so all in all as long as you have a PC your sorted!

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Posted - 2008/10/02 :  10:09:05  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Project-Industrial's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by DJLiight:
I use computer, cdjs & Vinyl for DJing. Computer is the easiest since it got Automatic beat matching. Doesnt make you any less of a DJ, its just technology has advanced over the years making things easier & better.



do not trust autosync.. it rapes you bloody hard up your ass ;)


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Samination
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Posted - 2008/10/02 :  12:22:15  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Righteous9:
I prefer Vinyl, but I do own a ishload of MP3s, but I do not use CDJs, I just use MP3s for my LIVE 365 Station... Vinyl, is actually better sound quality then a CD! Unmixed CDs are your best bet for material like that, but like I said, I spin vinyl, and listen to MP3s!



only reason vinyl "might" be better is because Audio CDs (and MP3s) are locked to 44kHz


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Samination
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Posted - 2008/10/02 :  12:23:34  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by DJ_FunDaBounce:
Vinyl makes it more legit in my opinion.That being said you all must know I spin both Vinyl AND CD in an attempt to keep up with the times.
The format issue though sometimes gets me down.I mean, I love Vinyl but it's expensive compared to mp3s yet If I switched to mp3 only how could I ever prove to anyone I legally purchased all my music?
I could've easily built up a collection without forking out a single cent(other than for internet access) in this day and age.

for the moment I've decided to fill my cd wallet with exclusive material(i.e. only stuff released on digital) and save up for the vinyl.

...at least I will try :P (can't help the urge to buy some fresh vinyl releases on mp3 every now and then)



keep the mails you get from the mp3 store :P


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Ken Masters
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Posted - 2008/10/02 :  13:38:54  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Ken Masters's homepage  Reply with quote
Why does everyone seem to think that only mixing & track selection makes a DJ, obvioulsy that's part of it but there's a lot more to a live set than that & if that's all u do then i'd rather go & see a live rock band to be honest!

I hate seeing dj's these day's just hiding behind a set of CDJ's pressing a few buttons & calling himself a DJ. I mean, put a bit of effort in. Let's not forget what DJing is all about. It's bringing together all styles & sounds combined with lot's of cutting & scratching techniques. If it was down to seeing a DJ that mixes & only mixes at a club, I would honestly rather see a rock band(not Indie lol) because at least htese guy's are putting sum effort in & playing the music themselves.

IMO it's too easy to be a DJ these day's cause everything is there for you, effects ect & were using techniques that are designed by the company ie Pioneer. At the end of the day, it's these guy's that are deciding what our music will sound like & where it's going. I saw on another forum that someone was pissed off because they were sick of the effects on their CDJ's so they couldn't wait till the new set came out so that they could try some nu stuff! WTF! If this isn't the company leading our styles then what is.

I say, get yourself a set of Vinyl decks, Scratch live & a mixer that can accept an effects box & then you've got the best of both worlds only with the endless limits of Vinyl.


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Edited by - Ken Masters on 2008/10/02 13:43:12



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