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charlieee
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 Posted - 2008/10/04 : 10:57:04
are u sure that chart is right? im pretty sure alc and tobacco are the number 1
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Fishy
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Posted - 2008/10/04 : 12:42:47
lol stop being so paranoid, i smoke loads and im fine, even when i stop smoking, the most dangerous thing is the fear of it
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Fishy
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Posted - 2008/10/04 : 12:45:33
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Originally posted by sophie.HTID:
they wudnt warn you or make it illegal if they couldnt harm you
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SixFeet
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Posted - 2008/10/04 : 13:54:31
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Originally posted by Fishy:
lol stop being so paranoid, i smoke loads and im fine, even when i stop smoking, the most dangerous thing is the fear of it
You're 19 years old, what the **** do you expect!
It requires inhalation of tobacco over prolonged periods of time (decades) to show the affects of the drug.
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Originally posted by charlieee:
are u sure that chart is right? im pretty sure alc and tobacco are the number 1
Number 1 and 2 killer by a considerable margin but certainly not as harmful or addictive as heroin and crack cocaine now are they...
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Originally posted by foosa:
ecstacy is less harmful than weed? what about the whole dehydration and jaw-clenching thing?
Weed is like tobacco, it takes prolonged use over a extended period of time to show affects. Ecstasy has an insanely low death rate for it's consumption.
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sophie.HTID
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Posted - 2008/10/04 : 14:56:53
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Originally posted by Fishy:
the most dangerous thing is the fear of it
http://www.nida.nih.gov/MarijBroch/teenpg13-14.html#brain
http://www.nida.nih.gov/MarijBroch/teenpg7-8.html
i dont think so
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Fishy
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Posted - 2008/10/04 : 15:10:33
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Originally posted by SixFeet:
[quote]Originally posted by Fishy:
lol stop being so paranoid, i smoke loads and im fine, even when i stop smoking, the most dangerous thing is the fear of it
You're 19 years old, what the **** do you expect!
It requires inhalation of tobacco over prolonged periods of time (decades) to show the affects of the drug.
ye decades of constant use, doest really sound like a killer rug to me lol. i dont even smoke tobacco tho.
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sophie.HTID
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Posted - 2008/10/04 : 15:21:40
I cannot believe that after everything people say on the news, everything people learn in school and all the warnings about the harmful affects of ALL drugs, you can still debate whether or not all the drugs mentioned can harm you.
why do you think scientists have put warnings on fag packets?
why do you think weed is illegal?
why do you think all the other drugs are illegal?
surely that chart says it all?
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Meathead
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Posted - 2008/10/04 : 15:37:28
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Originally posted by sophie.HTID:
I cannot believe that after everything people say on the news, everything people learn in school and all the warnings about the harmful affects of ALL drugs, you can still debate whether or not all the drugs mentioned can harm you.
why do you think scientists have put warnings on fag packets?
why do you think weed is illegal?
why do you think all the other drugs are illegal?
surely that chart says it all?
Government conspiracy? Seriously the government are trageting smokers now in such a way it's ridiculous. I don't smoke btw.
Pathetic argument. Weed - less harmful than tobacco and alcohol, yet there legal.
I don't know? Governments are full of fools who seriously need to rethink their policies on drugs.
I quite agree with that chart.
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Lilley
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Posted - 2008/10/04 : 15:38:13
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Originally posted by sophie.HTID:
I cannot believe that after everything people say on the news, everything people learn in school and all the warnings about the harmful affects of ALL drugs, you can still debate whether or not all the drugs mentioned can harm you.
why do you think scientists have put warnings on fag packets?
why do you think weed is illegal?
why do you think all the other drugs are illegal?
surely that chart says it all?
they certainly can harm you. abuse of anything will kill you. im not saying that as the pill/pothead defense either. i believe smoking and drinking should be made illegal based on the reasons made for most drugs to be illegal. im going to enjoy drinking while its not though.
having said that il take a pill every so often. few times a year.
re: foosa's qu. iv never had any problem with pills, easiest way to combat the jaw clenching is chewing gum. your jaw is saw as hel by the end of the nite but its still working, occasionally you get cuts in your mouth. dehydration is easy to combat. just keep drinking... this is the biggest killer wih eccys i think. people who dont drink at all then flood their brains. all it takes is knowledge of the drug your taking. i think moderate usse and knowing the risks and effects is enough to stay safe on e. biggest thing to look out for is impurities
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nearly in line....
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Fishy
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Posted - 2008/10/04 : 15:38:43
uhm.. cause it cant be taxed, and its a big treath to the tobacco industry
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Jax
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Posted - 2008/10/04 : 15:48:29
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Originally posted by Fishy:
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Originally posted by SixFeet:
[quote]Originally posted by Fishy:
lol stop being so paranoid, i smoke loads and im fine, even when i stop smoking, the most dangerous thing is the fear of it
You're 19 years old, what the **** do you expect!
It requires inhalation of tobacco over prolonged periods of time (decades) to show the affects of the drug.
ye decades of constant use, doest really sound like a killer rug to me lol. i dont even smoke tobacco tho.
i wouldnt say weed is a killer of the body, more the mind...
maybe you are one of the people who can smoke an oz a day and feel no down sides, maybe you are someone who can smoke an oz a day, feel no down sides and then one day realise your head is ****ed right up... chances are you wont know till its too late.
how many people do you know in their mid 30's+ that still smoke weed on a regular basis and arnt ****ed up?
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Craigavon raver
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Posted - 2008/10/04 : 16:06:03
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Originally posted by Meathead:
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Originally posted by sophie.HTID:
I cannot believe that after everything people say on the news, everything people learn in school and all the warnings about the harmful affects of ALL drugs, you can still debate whether or not all the drugs mentioned can harm you.
why do you think scientists have put warnings on fag packets?
why do you think weed is illegal?
why do you think all the other drugs are illegal?
surely that chart says it all?
Government conspiracy? Seriously the government are trageting smokers now in such a way it's ridiculous. I don't smoke btw.
Pathetic argument. Weed - less harmful than tobacco and alcohol, yet there legal.
I don't know? Governments are full of fools who seriously need to rethink their policies on drugs.
I quite agree with that chart.
i,d hardly say weed is less harmful than drink and fegs,this cuming from someone who basically smoked it every day 4 years at a very young age
sure think about it god knows some of the shit that the dealers put in it,years ago i remember hearing dealers near me dipping it in diesel now come on thats just ****ed up,and then prob rat poison and god knows wat else in it
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sophie.HTID
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Posted - 2008/10/04 : 16:10:00
Well i just think that if you take drugs or if you drink or if you smoke, its your choice, but people need to understand how much it harms you and sometimes the people around you.
I definately agree that the goverment need to rethink the poilicies on drugs. Arent they considering changing some classes of drugs now?I Thought I heard on the news not long ago they were considering changing some? not to sure
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Meathead
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Posted - 2008/10/04 : 16:53:59
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Originally posted by Craigavon raver:
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Originally posted by Meathead:
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Originally posted by sophie.HTID:
I cannot believe that after everything people say on the news, everything people learn in school and all the warnings about the harmful affects of ALL drugs, you can still debate whether or not all the drugs mentioned can harm you.
why do you think scientists have put warnings on fag packets?
why do you think weed is illegal?
why do you think all the other drugs are illegal?
surely that chart says it all?
Government conspiracy? Seriously the government are trageting smokers now in such a way it's ridiculous. I don't smoke btw.
Pathetic argument. Weed - less harmful than tobacco and alcohol, yet there legal.
I don't know? Governments are full of fools who seriously need to rethink their policies on drugs.
I quite agree with that chart.
i,d hardly say weed is less harmful than drink and fegs,this cuming from someone who basically smoked it every day 4 years at a very young age
sure think about it god knows some of the shit that the dealers put in it,years ago i remember hearing dealers near me dipping it in diesel now come on thats just ****ed up,and then prob rat poison and god knows wat else in it
Okay i'll take back what i said weed can make you retarded apparently. Do you think you'd actually still be alive (or not in a coma whatever) if you were smoking weed with rat poison in it?
Weed is safer than alcohol and tobacco. Look at that chart. Look at the statistics. How many people have died from consumption of the 3 drugs respectively? It is already safer but, if legal and controlled by the government would be much safer than alcohol and tobacco. I agree that with it in the hands of the dealers it is unsafe (to an extent), but the same can be said about all drugs. If they were legal and controlled they'd safer.
I wonder just how many debates have been had on this forum about the effects and legality of cannabis over the years lol.
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SixFeet
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Posted - 2008/10/04 : 16:58:05
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Originally posted by Fishy:
ye decades of constant use, doest really sound like a killer rug to me lol. i dont even smoke tobacco tho.
A drug is anything that alters your bodily functions. If you're refering to it not being dangerous, just because something kills you slow means it isn't dangerous?
Yeah cos AIDS, HIV, cancer etc kill you instantly!
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