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Analog Dreams
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Belarus
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 Posted - 2008/11/17 : 14:03:56
Hi, I have been mixing hardcore for a year and a half or so, and I have also been using fruity loops to screw around with. My question is, I am ready to upgrade as fruity loops is absolutely horrible. I'm looking into reason as I heard that is a better program, is this true? What are some good programs I should get my hands on to improve my sound?
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Dain-Ja
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Posted - 2008/11/17 : 15:22:33
What's horrible about Fruity Loops?
As long as you're using VSTs it can give you the same results as Cubase.
I used to use FL but I've switched to Cubase, and it's much better in some aspects. However, FL has alot of advantages I miss. Having to use a VST sampler is ****ing trash. Makes doing percussion in Cubase a real bitch.
I'd say if you're gonna "upgrade" from FL, Cubase is the only good option (except for Logic Pro if you have a mac).
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Analog Dreams
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Posted - 2008/11/17 : 15:40:40
What is cubase like? Is it as user friendly as fruity loops, or much different?
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Dain-Ja
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Canada
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Posted - 2008/11/17 : 16:06:16
Well, a sequencer is a sequencer.
It's not as intuitive as FL. That's for sure. The main reason is the lack of a built in sampler.
Once you get past that, and figure out where stuff is, how to route VSTs and effects, it gets alot easier. Still, it seems daunting at first (but it appears more complicated than it really is).
I find the built in effects (filters, etc.) are harder to use than FL's but they sound very good.
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Shades
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Posted - 2008/11/17 : 16:14:06
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Originally posted by Dain-Ja:
What's horrible about Fruity Loops?
i'd also like to know the answer to that ???????
before you go getting reason you should know it does NOT support vst plugins like other sequencers so it leaves you limited unless you rewire it through FL, Cubase, sonar etc....
i guess what im saying is if your buying one sequencer buy one that supports vst plugins as you wont be rescricted, if you feel the need to get reason after then cool as you can rewire it.
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mitchy_boy
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Australia
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Posted - 2008/11/18 : 06:42:42
I got cubase the other day, and it's too ****ing confusing [:s] so im like **** this i'll deal with it later and opened FL back up, it's so much more fun and easy and inviting to use IMO, and i reckon that if you have the skills and plugins, you can make music that sounds better than it would coming out of cubase 
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bulby_g
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Posted - 2008/11/18 : 11:43:38
You wont make better sounding music by switching to another sequencer... The sound engine in FL is great so get some decent plugins loaded and you can make tracks with sound quality on a par with Cubase etc. Your knowledge and ears are the only thing that can hold you back really.
I'm not saying this is what you're doing as I've not heard your music/don't know you but... A lot of people seem to change sequencers thinking it will improve their music. It wont. The layout may be more suited to the way you work but that is all you will really get out of it.
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