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Rayovac
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 Posted - 2008/11/18 : 00:16:12
Alright, what's a good sound card for production that won't cost me an arm and a leg? And yes, I sure you remember me buing an M-Audio 1010LT, but you know what? **** M-audio. They can go eat shit. Sonar doesn't work with their shitty card, Vista nor Ubuntu work well with their shitty, outdated drivers, I don't want to deal with their shitty support anymore... luckily Musician's Friend will allow me to return the blasted card.
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bulby_g
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Posted - 2008/11/18 : 11:33:28
I use an Echo MIA Midi. Ruffage recommended I went with this and it has never let me down. Been working great in several systems and currently being used in a Vista setup.
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Chwhynny
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Posted - 2008/11/18 : 11:41:58
The Echo MiaMIDI is an excellent card. Works fine under XP as well as Vista. I have one too, on Ruffage's recommendation. I may be selling mine soon though as I'm planning to upgrade in the near future, so PM me if you're interested.
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djbuzz1021
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Posted - 2008/11/18 : 15:03:50
Here is a selection of cards that are good.
M-Audio Audiophile 192 24/192 2 In 4 Out Analogue / Midi / SPDIF Interface which Includes Ableton Live Lite
Spec:
# High-definition 24-bit/192kHz performance with digital I/O and balanced analog I/O
# Zero-latency direct hardware input monitoring plus flexible I/O routing
# Rock-solid drivers and compatibility with most audio software
# Up to 24-bit/192kHz audio
# 2 balanced analog inputs (1/4 inch jack TRS)
# 2 balanced analog outputs (1/4 inch jack TRS)
# S/PDIF digital I/O (coaxial RCA connectors) with 2-channel PCM
# Digital I/O supports surround-encoded AC-3 and DTS pass-through
# Direct hardware input monitoring via separate balanced 1/4 inch jack TRS monitor outputs
# Software routing of inputs and outputs
# Digital I/O can be routed to/from external effects
# 16-channel MIDI I/O
# ASIO, WDM, GSIF 2 and CoreAudio driver support for compatibility with most applications
# 64-bit driver support for Windows
# PCI 2.2 compatibility
# System Requirements for PC are Pentium 3 – 700 MHz or higher, 256 MB RAM (192 and 96kHz operation), Pentium 3 – 500 MHz or higher 128 MB RAM (48kHz operation), DirectX 9.0b or higher , Windows XP (SP1) or Windows 2000 (SP4), Available PCI slot
# System Requirements for Mac are Macintosh G4 733 MHz or higher, 512MB RAM, Mac OS X Jaguar (10.2.8 or later) or Panther (10.3.4)
# This product includes a free copy of Ableton Live Lite 5 (Mac/PC ) music production software solution that allows you to spontaneously compose, record, remix, improvise and edit your musical ideas in a seamless audio/MIDI environment
Link > http://www.dv247.com/invt/24167/
E-MU 1616 PCI Digital Audio System
Including PCI Card + MicroDock Breakout Box. Offers a total of 16 inputs and 16 outputs plus 32 channels of MIDI I/O, including two E-MU XTC Class-A ultra-low noise mic/line/hi-Z preamps.
Spec:
The E-MU1616 PCI Digital Audio System offers a total of 16 inputs and 16 outputs plus 32 channels of MIDI I/O, including two E-MU XTC Class-A ultra-low noise mic/line/hi-Z preamps with 48V phantom power and analog soft limiting circuit for clip protection.
E-MU1616 PCI Features:
* Premium 24-bit/192kHz A/D and D/A converters ( 120dB SNR)
* E-MU XTC Class-A ultra-low noise mic/line/hi-Z preamps with soft limiter and 48V phantom power (-127dB EIN)
* PatchMix offers 32 channels of zero latency hardware mixing/monitoring with super-flexible virtual patchbay – no external mixer needed
* E-DSP 32-bit Multi-effects Processor offers you over 25 hardware-accelerated effects (over 600 presets) with no CPU overhead – plug-in architecture allows you to add new effects as needed
* E-MU Power FX hardware-accelerated VST effects let you use the E-DSP Multi-effects Processor as a plug-in within your VST applications and allow you to automate and save all effects parameter settings
* Compatibility with most popular audio/sequencer applications – ultra-low latency 24-bit/192kHz ASIO2, WDM and 64-bit drivers
* Includes Production Tools software bundle with E-MU’s Proteus X LE, as well as software by Cakewalk, Steinberg, Ableton, IK Multimedia, and many more.
* Two E-MU XTC mic/line/hi-Z preamps (w/soft limiter and 48V phantom power)
* Four 1/4 balanced inputs
* Six 1/4 balanced outputs
* Turntable input (w/ground lug and hardware RIAA preamp)
* 24-bit/192kHz ADAT in/out (switchable to S/PDIF)
* 24-bit/192kHz coaxial S/PDIF in/out (switchable to AES/EBU)
* Two sets of MIDI in/out on breakout cable
* Three stereo 1/8" speaker outputs (configurable from stereo to 5.1)
* Stereo headphone output
Link> http://www.dv247.com/invt/33708/
E-MU 1212M Digital Audio System
Spec:
The E-MU 1212M Digital Audio System delivers everything you need to produce audio on a PC with professional results - 24-bit/192kHz converters (the same A/D converters used in Digidesign's flagship Pro Tools HD 192 I/O interface), hardware-accelerated effects and mixing, and seamless compatibility with your favorite PC audio/sequencer software. Whether you are recording full-blown productions or running virtual instruments on a dedicated computer, the E-MU 1212M Digital Audio System is the perfect solution for any application that only requires a couple channels of premium analog I/O (i.e. mastering, remixing and running virtual instruments).
E-MU's Digital Audio Systems feature the powerful E-DSP chipset, which features a hardware-accelerated effects processor with over 20 effects plug-ins (over 500 presets). This effects architecture is fully expandable, allowing you to add more effect plug-ins to your system as needed. E-DSP also provides zero-latency, hardware-based mixing and monitoring via the included PatchMix DSP mixer, delivering unmatched flexibility in routing audio between all of your physical and virtual (ASIO/WDM) inputs and outputs- no external mixer needed.
* Mastering-grade 24- bit, 192kHz converters - the same A/D converters used in Digidesign's flagship Pro Tools HD I/ O Interface
* Flexible connectivity with 1/4" balanced analog I/O, 24/192 ADAT I/O and 24/96 S/PDIF I/O, MIDI I/O plus a FireWire port for seamless integration with your entire studio
* E-DSP 32-bit Multi- effects Processor offers you over 16 simultaneous hardware-accelerated studio-grade effects with no CPU overhead - plug- in architecture allows you to add new effects as needed
* 32 Channels of zero latency Hardware Mixing/ Monitoring with super- flexible virtual patchbay - no external mixer needed
* Full compatibility with most popular audio/ sequencer applications with ultra-low latency WDM, DirectSound and ASIO 2.0 Drivers
* Powerful software studio package
Link > http://www.dv247.com/invt/20307/
Any of these cards should do the trick for you, The 2nd one is a bit more expencive but worth the money, Looks silky too :)
Hope this helps.
Buzz
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kdf
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Posted - 2008/11/20 : 13:44:59
why is it so important to have such a good sound card
does it just give off a better sound quality?
sorry if that is such a stupid question..
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djbuzz1021
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Posted - 2008/11/20 : 23:25:50
Some cards can improve certian things. Some cards work better With Music DAW's like reason and cubase, Some cards are better at processing the sound that you input into them, Also some cards support extra stuff like Firewire, MIDI ect.
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DJ_FunDaBounce
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Posted - 2008/11/21 : 04:25:19
quote:
Originally posted by kdf:
why is it so important to have such a good sound card
does it just give off a better sound quality?
sorry if that is such a stupid question..
It's like a graphics card in my opinion.
Gives lower latencies (especially if it's got good drivers) usually as its a dedicated piece of hardware.
From what I understand though, the real value of a card is in it's Analog-to-Digital converters cuz that's where the sound recorded/sampled gets "colored" by the hardware.
output quality, as far as I know, is practically the same as your motherboards card(if someone has proof of it not being so, please prove me wrong),simply with less noise(static/hum) perhaps.
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