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djwilson
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 Posted - 2008/12/11 : 22:18:10
in 2000 v(put 200 earlier lol) i never new of hardcore :( but what is this about people trying to stop hardcore in 1999 - 2001 and H.T.I.D etc jus growing bigger and bigger to prove the haters wrong, there was some lyrics on a HTID vid on the HTID channel, cant seem to find what vid it on but its an early event, anyone know the story?
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Posted - 2008/12/11 : 22:21:36
whaaaaaaaaaat your over 1800 years old
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pinkdevil16
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Posted - 2008/12/11 : 22:22:17
I read on wikipedia (I fink) that people didnt like the idea of raves becuase of the huge availablity of drugs and the goverment tried to stop it or something...i duno sumit like that
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djDMS
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Posted - 2008/12/11 : 22:42:22
Nobody tried to stop Hardcore. Around 1998 the music was getting sillier and sillier many people just got bored of it and walked away from the scene. 1999-01 were the years where Hardcore was 'in the wildernes' but some producers stayed with it and started to get back to basics. The music was never going to totally go away - it just needed a kick up the arse.
People blame the criminal justice act for trying to ban raves and all sorts of things but i'm pretty sure the government weren't the ones producing shite tunes!
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Mortis
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Posted - 2008/12/11 : 22:42:52
I think he means the intro to Hixxy's Bonkers 11 (?)...
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FingazMc
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Posted - 2008/12/11 : 22:47:15
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=M6Xe-MC9sT0&feature=channel_page
Is that the thing that your on about? Well the speaking at the begining.
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djwilson
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Posted - 2008/12/11 : 22:55:44
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Originally posted by FingazMc:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=M6Xe-MC9sT0&feature=channel_page
Is that the thing that your on about? Well the speaking at the begining.
i like that, whats the name of the 1st song? but its female vocals on http://uk.youtube.com/user/htidHQ but i cant remember what event vid.
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The Doc
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Posted - 2008/12/13 : 01:31:17
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
Nobody tried to stop Hardcore. Around 1998 the music was getting sillier and sillier many people just got bored of it and walked away from the scene. 1999-01 were the years where Hardcore was 'in the wildernes' but some producers stayed with it and started to get back to basics. The music was never going to totally go away - it just needed a kick up the arse.
People blame the criminal justice act for trying to ban raves and all sorts of things but i'm pretty sure the government weren't the ones producing shite tunes!
I wouldn't say in 1998 the music was getting sillier at all! it just got stale! Hardcore producers had not many new ideas and the crowd from earlier moved on! like you said a few stuck with it and now are back on top, but its because all music especially dance, goes in cycles with the youngsters! once something gets to popular they look for new sounds! that's why I think hardance is trying to get closer to hardcore in the last couple of years! Its not as popular as it used to be!
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NeXuS
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Posted - 2008/12/13 : 05:54:37
Mortis, your thinking of Hixxy's intro on Bonkers X
Around 98-99 (dont remember the year) a somewhat popular music magazine hade printed that Hardcore was dead. Hixxy's intro was referring to "them" as the mass media, mainstream if you choose.
Then hardcore adopted the 4/4 kicks and bass stabs, and was re-released to the masses using the same name but different sound.
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TypeR
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Posted - 2008/12/13 : 07:41:38
it was called mixmag.
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Wilky
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Posted - 2008/12/13 : 09:19:56
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it was called mixmag.
that used to be a quality mag
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Future_Shock
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Posted - 2008/12/13 : 10:32:51
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whaaaaaaaaaat your over 1800 years old
Hahahaha smart ass
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Jay-Owen
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Posted - 2008/12/13 : 21:56:31
The problem now is that we have people who think 'Hardcore' is just a load of commericial shite, as seen on Clubland (i.e. The Guardian Newspaper), meaning that more and more people misinterpret what Hardcore really is, and more and more undesirable attention is drawn towards the scene from undersirable eyes.
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raindancerob
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Posted - 2008/12/13 : 21:58:28
while you are right, f*ck em i say who cares what some 8 year old thinks lol
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djDMS
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Posted - 2008/12/14 : 17:02:33
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Originally posted by The Doc:
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Originally posted by djDMS:
Nobody tried to stop Hardcore. Around 1998 the music was getting sillier and sillier many people just got bored of it and walked away from the scene. 1999-01 were the years where Hardcore was 'in the wildernes' but some producers stayed with it and started to get back to basics. The music was never going to totally go away - it just needed a kick up the arse.
People blame the criminal justice act for trying to ban raves and all sorts of things but i'm pretty sure the government weren't the ones producing shite tunes!
I wouldn't say in 1998 the music was getting sillier at all! it just got stale! Hardcore producers had not many new ideas and the crowd from earlier moved on! like you said a few stuck with it and now are back on top, but its because all music especially dance, goes in cycles with the youngsters! once something gets to popular they look for new sounds! that's why I think hardance is trying to get closer to hardcore in the last couple of years! Its not as popular as it used to be!
Mate, some of those tunes were bordering on ridiculous! It took the near death of the scene for people to realise just how much damage the hardcore by numbers "insert witty sample or tv theme here" tunes had done. Even the drugged up, dance to anything brigade turned their noses up eventually!
And yes, i know music goes in cycles - but there was plenty of mileage left in Hardcore if it had been handled properly at the time.
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Jay-Owen
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Posted - 2008/12/14 : 20:25:24
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Originally posted by raindancerob:
while you are right, f*ck em i say who cares what some 8 year old thinks lol
Who are you talking to? Me? If that's the case, then you'll understand that when I joined the site, I was 12, and I wanted people to care, I wasn't deprived of a voice. And neither should anyone else.
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