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mitchy_boy
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Posted - 2009/01/06 :  11:03:41  Show profile Send a private message  Visit mitchy_boy's homepage
lol im a bit confused [:s] i emailed kevin energy about remixing pretty rave girl ( i tried s3rl but hes got the rights) and he said

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hi There,

Please e-mail me your full bio and example work to my email

Thanks



what does he mean by full bio??? is it just a biography, or sumin else cos why the fuk would he want a story about me?


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Mortis
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Posted - 2009/01/06 :  11:51:01  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Mortis's homepage
He's probably loking for something along the lines of what you've done musically, have you done remix's before or released any tracks...things like that. I would imagine he's just trying to get an idea of who you are and what your about before commissioning a remix to someone he knows nothing about.

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mitchy_boy
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Posted - 2009/01/06 :  22:41:15  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit mitchy_boy's homepage
haha well im screwed

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Future_Shock
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Posted - 2009/01/06 :  22:48:34  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Future_Shock's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by mitchy_boy:
haha well im screwed



You actually thought they'd let anyone who wants to remix a track actually remix it?

Come on, where is the common sense these days?


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Edited by - Future_Shock on 2009/01/06 22:48:54
Jax
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quote:
Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
quote:
Originally posted by mitchy_boy:
haha well im screwed



You actually thought they'd let anyone who wants to remix a track actually remix it?

Come on, where is the common sense these days?



well its pretty common for hardcore producers to go out there and remix without even asking


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Rayovac
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quote:
Originally posted by Jax:
quote:
Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
quote:
Originally posted by mitchy_boy:
haha well im screwed



You actually thought they'd let anyone who wants to remix a track actually remix it?

Come on, where is the common sense these days?



well its pretty common for hardcore producers to go out there and remix without even asking


Hell year, bootlegs.


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Jay-Owen
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Posted - 2009/01/07 :  06:23:33  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Jay-Owen's homepage
Yes but now Kevin Energy knows, you can't release a bootleg cause if he sees it, he knows your email and can trace you (worst case scenario of course).



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Future_Shock
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Posted - 2009/01/07 :  06:36:50  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Future_Shock's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Rayovac:
quote:
Originally posted by Jax:
quote:
Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
quote:
Originally posted by mitchy_boy:
haha well im screwed



You actually thought they'd let anyone who wants to remix a track actually remix it?

Come on, where is the common sense these days?



well its pretty common for hardcore producers to go out there and remix without even asking


Hell year, bootlegs.



That had nothing to do with what i said.

We're not talking about bootlegs, we're talking about asking to do an official remix.

If it was that easy to get vocals from every track, then every decent track would have a bootleg. Yet they dont. Why? Because it isnt always possible/will yield adequate results.

My comment was directed at the fact that he was surprised that Kev Energy wouldn't just let him remix whatever he wanted, without knowing who he was.


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TypeR
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Posted - 2009/01/07 :  06:58:40  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit TypeR's homepage
i wanted to also add that if kev owns the rights to the track, allowed you a commission for an official remix, wouldn't you owe kev royalties? also rather than have to pay him royalties, wouldn't it just be easier to just relinquish the official remix into kevs care for him to make onto a b side or if it's good enough an a side pressing?

with that being said, the reason ultimately for kev asking you for a bio of past works and what not prior to giving you something would allow kev to believe that he would be receiving quality product. being that all of the labels that kev operates, there has yet to be a sub-par production quality track released, your chances of earning a commission as a new "producer" is slim to none.

you get more bees with honey, if you have the goods kev will deliver. if you do not have the goods, kev will not give you jack shit. he's a smart business man and that he chose not to give you the opportunity to take his proverbial money and do whatever you please with it. if he gave you the vocal track, i'm sure that a lot more would be included with it, and if you are not a trustworthy source, you could then take all of the resources and do as you please afterwards.

that's why it didn't work for you, i'm willing to bet.


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whispering
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Posted - 2009/01/07 :  09:21:17  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit whispering's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Jax:
well its pretty common for hardcore producers to go out there and remix without even asking



Yea, its originally (melody) by Daddy DJ, so... :P


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Project-Industrial
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Posted - 2009/01/07 :  10:13:05  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Project-Industrial's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by whispering:
quote:
Originally posted by Jax:
well its pretty common for hardcore producers to go out there and remix without even asking



Yea, its originally (melody) by Daddy DJ, so... :P



was gonna say that.. think i already did when the first time someone discussed the 'pretty ravegirl' track. guess mitchy should contact daddy dj then =p

anyway im not supriced mitch.. i been asking some producers to remix their tracks (system 3 - like a shot) he's still thinking bout it but like what i've done to 'divided but united' so i might get the permission. thing is.. you should not want to get famous for remixes but for original tunes so make those first then talk bout remixing =]


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Samination
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Posted - 2009/01/07 :  11:13:57  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage
that's a problem tho.

Even tho from the beginning, it's a remix of daddy dj, but it's a remix of Basshunter's DotA track, which in it's turn, is a ripoff of daddy dj


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latininxtc
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quote:
Originally posted by DjSamination:
that's a problem tho.

Even tho from the beginning, it's a remix of daddy dj, but it's a remix of Basshunter's DotA track, which in it's turn, is a ripoff of daddy dj



Basshunter did get permission from Daddy DJ to use the beat of the song, S3RL did not but from what i read somewhere Daddy DJ was ok with it. I don't think you have to be concerned with Daddy DJ or Basshunter if all he wants is the vocals, especially since the vocals aren't a translation of Dota or similar to any of the previous songs


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Jax
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Posted - 2009/01/07 :  20:50:28  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Jax's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
quote:
Originally posted by Rayovac:
quote:
Originally posted by Jax:
quote:
Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
quote:
Originally posted by mitchy_boy:
haha well im screwed



You actually thought they'd let anyone who wants to remix a track actually remix it?

Come on, where is the common sense these days?



well its pretty common for hardcore producers to go out there and remix without even asking


Hell year, bootlegs.



That had nothing to do with what i said.

We're not talking about bootlegs, we're talking about asking to do an official remix.

If it was that easy to get vocals from every track, then every decent track would have a bootleg. Yet they dont. Why? Because it isnt always possible/will yield adequate results.

My comment was directed at the fact that he was surprised that Kev Energy wouldn't just let him remix whatever he wanted, without knowing who he was.



my point was that some hardcore producers get on their high horse about using their material when they do exactly the same thing themselves, and on an even bigger scale

imo, do a remix, call yourself anon 2 and put it up for free download :) how many hardcore producers can afford a legal battle over a tune?


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Jay-Owen
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Posted - 2009/01/08 :  08:32:05  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Jay-Owen's homepage
Why don't you just pm him? He's on these boards, dude.



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