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SPOOX
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 Posted - 2009/02/10 : 09:05:56
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
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Originally posted by Elliøtt:
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Originally posted by SPOOX:
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Originally posted by Elliøtt:
Being a man of great hardcore knowledge, I might just rewrite most of the them at some point in the near future. :)
Pisses me off though. :/
How would you have a great knowledge of Hardcore when you were born in 1991?
Okay, fine, I don't because it's obviously impossible to listen to music from before your time. My bad for being so stupid as to think otherwise.
Listening to old tunes of that time doesn't automatically tell you what got the whole scene started. You may be able to know what the first hardcore track is, but i don't think you'll be able to find out its influences, the 1st hardcore rave, first band of hardcore djs, the 1st hardcore scene, etc all that type of stuff. if somehow you took a course in hardcore history then u will kno stuff. i think that is what SPOOK was tryin 2 get at i don't think he was bein an ass
That's exactly what i meant by it. Thank you Latininxtc. I wasnt being nasty i just think you had to be their & experience it all.
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Lilley
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Posted - 2009/02/10 : 10:46:01
Think it was about two years ago now, maybe more, that people from here almost completely rewrote the happy hardcore wiki entry. It was quite a big post on the forums and was stickied for ages. its probably somewhere in the sites history. im sure a few of the older members will remember it.
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Smoogie
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Posted - 2009/02/10 : 10:55:50
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I wrote a big piece on hardcore in and around 2000, how Q-records in Japan bought 70% of the worlds (happy) hardcore music from alphamagic before they went bust and all this info, they deleted it all saying I couldn't reference a source, but no one else had written about it so that was the issue, I then found a source of info in Japanese about it all and they said it's not creditable because it's in Japanese.
They also removed entire sections with good info and replace it with fragments of crap and unimportant information. They nuked all external links, which is semi understandable because it was getting ridiculous. I figure I will have to write an article on happyhardcore.com about what I want put onto wikipedia, wait a few months and then write it on wikipedia so I have a source.
That would be a good idea Silver, let us know how that comes along! I have written other stuff that ends up getting deleted because there are no 'sources' or what not. It pisses me off, a few people think they can own wikipedia because they have a PHD in English & have a source they think any 'fan' of something isn't worthy of writing an article! The political partiy ones are the worse as some twat just wrote a lod of opinionated stuff & then soruced it to a website & thus, got their own way within the article. Thats not what wikipedia was about originaly, it was for everyone but now it is just for the small few who use it as a means of propaganda! 
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Fluffbomb
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Posted - 2009/02/10 : 13:12:49
I spent a fair bit of time arguing on wikipedia about a page covering Nu-Rave (Hardcore Breaks & Rave Breaks) that eventually got removed by some indie tosspot because it lacked 'credible' sources (compilations, shop sections, forums & Knowledge magazine article weren't good enough) compared to all the press guff about the New Rave scene (Klaxons etc). Kinda annoying as one is a scene without significant media exposure compared to one that is just a creation of the media!
There is some good articles on wikipedia and its a good first port of call for information but it is by no means the definitive source of information.
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ferocious
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Posted - 2009/02/10 : 15:03:51
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Originally posted by Smoogie:
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Originally posted by silver:
I figure I will have to write an article on happyhardcore.com about what I want put onto wikipedia, wait a few months and then write it on wikipedia so I have a source.
That would be a good idea Silver, let us know how that comes along!
Still isn't valid according to them as a source. I guess in this case it can also be deemed as promoting your own interests. It cannot be grasped from zero as the information does exist. I would have to take info from Brown, Elstak, Slipmatt... - stuff printed in B&W from that very time - over everyone else.
The only real source for 1990s electronic music, which is largely accurate and trusted, is the book Energy Flash. It was written at the time and with exerts from producers in their field. Other electronic music books are based on it. Then it would be any local music magazines dated from that time, particularly the like of M8 and Eternity, for which Energy Flash is connected.
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Watson.
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Posted - 2009/02/10 : 16:56:03
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
wikipedia is probably the last place you should go for accurate information. anybody can write whatever they want about anything and can make it as biased as they want to. u want real info do some harder searches or ask someone who personally lived thru whatever it is ur tryin 2 find.
I agree, although it can be quite useful if you're looking to get the general idea of something
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2009/02/10 : 17:32:43
you CAN make it as biased as you want it, BUT - people will come along and delete it if it cant be referenced lol which is what this whole thing is about haha
you have to make sure the info is as accurate as posible, else it will get changed.
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95_was_the_time
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Posted - 2009/02/10 : 23:24:01
well, i don't even like hardcore anymore
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Ken Masters
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Posted - 2009/02/10 : 23:25:52
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Originally posted by 95_was_the_time:
well, i don't even like hardcore anymore
 then you never did m8 
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tru bass
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Posted - 2009/02/10 : 23:36:48
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Originally posted by 95_was_the_time:
well, i don't even like hardcore anymore
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why are you here?
please go and sulk somewhere else.
anyway you were saying you couldnt find sources, cant you use CORE magazine as a source?
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K-Hole
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Posted - 2009/02/11 : 07:35:24
I have started a wiki as part of the Wikia community, if anyone is interested in it. It's all about hardcore, even though the name states harddance, but I want it to cover more than just hardcore.
On Wikipedia a lot of articles in this subject just have a couple of lines, everything else just seems to get removed, on this wiki, we can go much deeper into everything.
Only 32 articles at the minute, lots of articles to be created, written and edited!
http://harddance.wikia.com
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