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Rayovac
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 Posted - 2009/03/31 : 17:08:34
Assuming you already have the skill to get onto a label, how does the whole "hiring" process work?
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Vitalism
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Posted - 2009/03/31 : 17:37:28
same as any other job.
email, apply and let them see if you're what they're looking for to add to their label..
an example of your work PROBABLY wouldn't hurt either.
find a website, email address and the rest is up to them.
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Rayovac
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Posted - 2009/03/31 : 18:15:59
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Originally posted by Vitalism:
same as any other job.
email, apply and let them see if you're what they're looking for to add to their label..
an example of your work PROBABLY wouldn't hurt either.
find a website, email address and the rest is up to them.
Thanks. I can (hopefully) get a chance to use your tips in the future. 
When sending them an example, would you want to send just a clip or the whole song (or songs)?
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DarrenJ
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Posted - 2009/03/31 : 18:17:54
you could post it here as plenty of label owners search, infact dj kurt posted "rock ya hardcore" on here before it was signed :P
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Future_Shock
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Posted - 2009/03/31 : 20:02:07
quote:
Originally posted by Vitalism:
same as any other job.
email, apply and let them see if you're what they're looking for to add to their label..
an example of your work PROBABLY wouldn't hurt either.
find a website, email address and the rest is up to them.
uh wow that's totally wrong.
We ARE talking about getting music signed to a label aren't we? Examples of your work is not optional, its necessary. What else are they going to sign you on? Your immaculate typing? lol
Upload a few of your tracks to a public website www.sendspace.com is a good one - i always use it. Find some contact emails and just send them an email introducing yourself, a little bit of info about yourself (not a life story) and links to the tracks you uploaded.
Hardcore labels are generally pretty nice, they'll get back to you even if they don't want to sign you, and if you're lucky they'll give you advice. If they want something you've got, then they will take care of the rest.
A link to your myspace is NEVER okay as a demo. You'll want to send mastered 320 kb/s MP3's. Send clips though - 2 or 3 minutes just to be safe - if they're interested they'll ask for a longer sample.
They're all busy guys so don't feel disheartened if you don't hear a reply for a few weeks. Regardless of who you are.
It's important to note that "conventional" record deals RARELY happen in hardcore... You'll usually be signed on a track-by-track basis.
Unless i've missed the whole point of this topic?
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Rayovac
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Posted - 2009/03/31 : 20:44:07
quote:
Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
quote:
Originally posted by Vitalism:
same as any other job.
email, apply and let them see if you're what they're looking for to add to their label..
an example of your work PROBABLY wouldn't hurt either.
find a website, email address and the rest is up to them.
uh wow that's totally wrong.
We ARE talking about getting music signed to a label aren't we? Examples of your work is not optional, its necessary. What else are they going to sign you on? Your immaculate typing? lol
Upload a few of your tracks to a public website www.sendspace.com is a good one - i always use it. Find some contact emails and just send them an email introducing yourself, a little bit of info about yourself (not a life story) and links to the tracks you uploaded.
Hardcore labels are generally pretty nice, they'll get back to you even if they don't want to sign you, and if you're lucky they'll give you advice. If they want something you've got, then they will take care of the rest.
A link to your myspace is NEVER okay as a demo. You'll want to send mastered 320 kb/s MP3's. Send clips though - 2 or 3 minutes just to be safe - if they're interested they'll ask for a longer sample.
They're all busy guys so don't feel disheartened if you don't hear a reply for a few weeks. Regardless of who you are.
It's important to note that "conventional" record deals RARELY happen in hardcore... You'll usually be signed on a track-by-track basis.
Unless i've missed the whole point of this topic?
Thanks a ton Andy. 
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Vitalism
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Posted - 2009/03/31 : 22:03:43
quote:
Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
quote:
Originally posted by Vitalism:
same as any other job.
email, apply and let them see if you're what they're looking for to add to their label..
an example of your work PROBABLY wouldn't hurt either.
find a website, email address and the rest is up to them.
uh wow that's totally wrong.
We ARE talking about getting music signed to a label aren't we? Examples of your work is not optional, its necessary. What else are they going to sign you on? Your immaculate typing? lol
Upload a few of your tracks to a public website www.sendspace.com is a good one - i always use it. Find some contact emails and just send them an email introducing yourself, a little bit of info about yourself (not a life story) and links to the tracks you uploaded.
Hardcore labels are generally pretty nice, they'll get back to you even if they don't want to sign you, and if you're lucky they'll give you advice. If they want something you've got, then they will take care of the rest.
A link to your myspace is NEVER okay as a demo. You'll want to send mastered 320 kb/s MP3's. Send clips though - 2 or 3 minutes just to be safe - if they're interested they'll ask for a longer sample.
They're all busy guys so don't feel disheartened if you don't hear a reply for a few weeks. Regardless of who you are.
It's important to note that "conventional" record deals RARELY happen in hardcore... You'll usually be signed on a track-by-track basis.
Unless i've missed the whole point of this topic?
what i said was not "totally wrong", i think that's a bit of an exaggeration.
what you wrote is pretty much an expanded on version of what i said, with a slightly douchier tone to the whole thing.
when i said "probably wouldn't hurt", that was my north american, indirect way of saying "do this". i don't know if you caught the underlying meaning of the CAPS LOCK i purposely used there.
i understand that there was probably a cross cultural miscommunication here, so thanks for clearing it all up for me andrew. i didn't feel like typing as much as you did, plus i'm not a producer and you probably know more than me when it comes to this stuff.
at the end of the day, it's a similar procedure to landing a job.
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Future_Shock
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Posted - 2009/03/31 : 23:55:18
you know...
when you're giving advice to someone who asks a direct question - why would you use sarcasm? What if they DIDNT pick up on it? I'm sure there are other people that have read this thread that were wondering the same thing and didn't pick up on your serious-but-pretending-not-to-be response. It's just not helpful and so unnecessary.
As for the "totally wrong" part - that was in response to the comment that it might not be necessary to include examples of your work - which is totally wrong - which you have now cleared up in an impressingly douchely fashion. So thanks for that. Just out of curiosity though;
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Originally posted by Vitalism:
i'm not a producer
at the end of the day, it's a similar procedure to landing a job.
How do you know the procedure if you're not a producer, and never done it, or received a demo?
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Dain-Ja
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Posted - 2009/03/31 : 23:59:10
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Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
How do you know the procedure if you're not a producer, and never done it, or received a demo?
Agreed.
It's not really like landing a job IMO. Hardcore labels sign based on music, and pretty much track-by-track, it's not like a commercial/Backstreet Boys type casting.
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Starstruck
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Posted - 2009/04/01 : 01:20:12
Your example is quite spot on Andy.
Some labels operate differently however.. There is actually quite alot that wont reply, but it really depends who you're sending material to. Alot of labels like ot hear unmastered demos aswell (like myself).. because labels are USUALLY but not always of course (everyone operates differently) who sort Mastering for a release.. Obviously vinyl labels always do because not many mastering engineers know how to master to vinyl, i myself dont know too much about that, but im sure Ruffage does :P
I like to hear un mastered demo's to hear the raw production and mixdown without frequency alterations and without compression added to the over all track because it gives me a spot on idea of how it's produced and it's actually pretty essential.
Convential deals are sometimes done i guess, i do know of some in Hardcore. Alot of vocalists in Hardcore for example are contracted to a certain label to be doing work with a certain producer or production duo (i know of this for a fact). Convential deals to sign a producer are probably a good idea if you're planning on working with them alot and you want them to do a lot of work for you.
But to answer your question in my words C Cell.. I always have demo sendings etc. open, always, i've had people contact me, i've contacted people, but i always ask for examples of their work first, which they'd obviously upload a clip or rar or zip online so i could take a listen. And if i like what i hear i will tell them i'm interested and i'd like to hear a full version of which ever track. But it totally depends on the situation, depends on which contracts or agreements are necissary, etc.
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Vitalism
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Posted - 2009/04/01 : 02:21:14
okay, i was wrong. (see post about me not being a producer.)
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Vitalism
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Posted - 2009/04/01 : 02:26:10
quote:
Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
How do you know the procedure if you're not a producer, and never done it, or received a demo?
their logically couldn't be many other ways to do it. is my made up method far from the truth besides the blatant
you're right, i'm wrong. end of.
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