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sometimes I feel hardcore scene is like this:

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choonland
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Posted - 2009/06/12 :  08:16:42  Show profile Send a private message  Visit choonland's homepage
like when Titanic was sinking... and all those people were drowning in the ocean...

"unsinkable hardcore sinking in generic and crappy music
some few people very warm, safe and comfortable in their life boats, not looking back
a bunch people screaming and fighting to be heard and rise above the others
and many people drowning and fading away...

and when the others return to see who is alive, it will be too late, hardcore will be dead..."

too bad some of the best stuff is freezing in the ocean



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Edited by - choonland on 2009/06/12 08:19:14
djDMS
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I remember when Titanic came out at the cinema. Was going to see it but somebody spoiled it by telling me it sank at the end.

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quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
I remember when Titanic came out at the cinema. Was going to see it but somebody spoiled it by telling me it sank at the end.



I thought you where on it?


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Kinda off topic, but thats such a sad movie :( one of my all time favs.

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I too feel the same way. The stuff I that is apparently 'popular' just doesn't seem to have the same feel as stuff from a couple of years ago.

There's too many artists these days sitting comfortably on past performances knowing that even their most shoddy productions will still get selected for tracklists.

SElecting DJs for mixing compilations should be the same as selecting players for a football team - If you're on form, you get to play...otherwise you sit on the bench until you get better

But I guess things will never be like this


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quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
I remember when Titanic came out at the cinema. Was going to see it but somebody spoiled it by telling me it sank at the end.



That was a twist in the story line i didnt see coming.


Good analogy, i think.


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Posted - 2009/06/12 :  12:16:34  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Future_Shock's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Himself:
I too feel the same way. The stuff I that is apparently 'popular' just doesn't seem to have the same feel as stuff from a couple of years ago.

There's too many artists these days sitting comfortably on past performances knowing that even their most shoddy productions will still get selected for tracklists.

SElecting DJs for mixing compilations should be the same as selecting players for a football team - If you're on form, you get to play...otherwise you sit on the bench until you get better

But I guess things will never be like this



that's a perfect analogy.


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Revs
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Posted - 2009/06/12 :  16:44:24  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Revs's homepage
Yeah agree,

and yeah, love the movie too, one of my all-time favs.




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Posted - 2009/06/13 :  06:17:36  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Lilley's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Himself:
SElecting DJs for mixing compilations should be the same as selecting players for a football team - If you're on form, you get to play...otherwise you sit on the bench until you get better



But this is the same. Selectors will stay with an old boy even if they are well past their use by date, particularly for a country squad. Especially the case with some games, Rugby Union and cricket come to mind, even NRL (for the aussies) to some extent.


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Brian K
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Posted - 2009/06/13 :  08:08:33  Show profile  Send a private message
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
I remember when Titanic came out at the cinema. Was going to see it but somebody spoiled it by telling me it sank at the end.



hahaha

that's ok the entire time I was watching it I kept saying "sink, sink, sink"


quote:
Originally posted by Himself:
SElecting DJs for mixing compilations should be the same as selecting players for a football team - If you're on form, you get to play...otherwise you sit on the bench until you get better



this needs to be implemented at once, brilliant idea


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silver
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Posted - 2009/06/13 :  12:28:55  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit silver's homepage
Take charge, make your own music, make your own events, if you dont like it then make it better :)



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quote:
Originally posted by silver:
Take charge, make your own music, make your own events, if you dont like it then make it better :)



Easier said then done in a world where money is the key component to doing these things.

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Also, Titanic sucked.

I only say this because I didn't like the idea of turning a Tragedy into a love film, and not accurately displaying what truly happened.


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true that! everybody knows the titanic sailed away from that iceberg unscaithed! ;)

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Posted - 2009/06/13 :  17:40:04  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage
The only part of the scene that's going down is the shit commercial side of it, which for me is a good thing. It means once again people will turn to underground Hardcore, and this is happening more and more with the likes of Darwin etc... I mean, that part of the scene was always there anyway it was just eclipsed by the commercial stuff.

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Edited by - Hard2Get on 2009/06/13 17:40:51
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quote:
Originally posted by Hard2Get:
The only part of the scene that's going down is the shit commercial side of it, which for me is a good thing. It means once again people will turn to underground Hardcore, and this is happening more and more with the likes of Darwin etc... I mean, that part of the scene was always there anyway it was just eclipsed by the commercial stuff.



Every time I see TheOneNOnly, I think of you Hard2Get :P

And I don't know if it's because I read it wrong, or understood it wrong, but what did you mean? Darwin's the one to blame that Hardcore's like this?

In my opinion it seems like the underground stuff is going way back, to the more breaky and jungly stuff, which I don't like at all :(


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you should read about RMS Olympic (Titanics sistership) its like a true reflection of Hardcore! (its uncanny)

Launched on 20th October 1910 Olympic was the first of the trio of White Star Liners. Under the command of Captain E.J. Smith (who was later to command the Titanic) she sailed on June 14th 1911 on her Maiden voyage to New York.

The Olympic was received well, but on 20th September 1911 she was involved in a collision with cruiser HMS Hawke. After limping back to Belfast she was repaired using components from her sister (Titanic) then under construction.

After the Titanic disaster, Olympic underwent various safety improvements including lifeboats for all aboard, and in October 1912 she returned to Belfast again for installation of an inner watertight skin.

On 1st September 1915 the Olympic was requisitioned by the British Government for war service as a troopship. Later she received a coat of dazzle paint designed to confuse enemy observers. Perhaps her most famous exploit of the war years was when she struck and sank a German submarine, U103.

After the war she returned to commercial service, and despite her early mishaps, she gained an affectionate following and earned the nickname "Old Reliable".

Her bad luck returned on 15th May 1934 when the Olympic collided with the Nantucket lightship with the loss of 7 lives.

Her last voyage ended in Southampton on April 12th 1935, on 13th October 1935 she arrived Palmers Yard on the Tyne for breaking up. Her pitiful remains were finally towed to Inverkeithing on 19th September 1937 for final demolition.

Fittings from the Olympic were sold off at auction, and to this day it is possible to see them. Notable locations include the White Swan Hotel, Alnwick, England and the famous "Honour and Glory Crowning Time" wood carving can be seen in the Southampton Maritime Museum.


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