All users can post new topics in this forum. All users can reply to topics in this forum
Author
Thread
Smoogie Advanced Member
United Kingdom
6,504 posts Joined: Mar, 2006
Posted - 2009/06/13 : 20:31:17
I live in the British constituency of England & worship both the Union Jack & St George's. I vote for the conservatives as they are the party for Britian as unlike 'New' Labour they want to keep the Uk as one nation! If I was Scottish I would be Scottish British & would vote for the Scottish Conservatives other than the SNP or aby Scottish Labour party. If I was Welsh I would be Welsh Britsh & if I lived in Northen Ireland I would be a Unionist (none violent). The only thing I wouldn't do is vote B.N.P. as they are racist in origin.
I live in the English County of Dorset on the south coast so we get the best Brittish weather. I live in a town caleld Poole which is next door to Bounremouth, one of the four great seaside resorts of Great Britian. The others are Brighton, Blackpool & Southend-On-Sea.
I have visited many Great British cities including the capital, London, Manchester, Glasgow, Oxford & Bristol to name a few. I also want to visit the Welsh capital Cardiff and other parts of Wales. I would like to see Scotland again & Northen Ireland & think it is a shame that Southern Ireland (The Republic of Ireland) pulled out of us! It is there loss!
I also listen to British Hardcore from the 90s! Here are some favorites of mine!
Charco Advanced Member
Ireland
1,979 posts Joined: Nov, 2001
Posted - 2009/06/13 : 23:39:45
Smoogie, you seriously need to read more about Irish history before making comments like you just have. Republic of Ireland 'Pull-out'?!?! Gain independance is what it's oherwise known as- as should the northern 6 counties that make up 'Northern Ireland'. Did you know that the Ulster that makes up 'Northern Ireland' actually has 9 counties but the British Government weren't going to get the 3 most Catholic counties so they cut them out?
I am from Tyrone, which, if you know your geography, is in the North. I've an Irish Passport, Irish Identity and an Irish birth certificate. Irish through and through. Not sure where I'm going with this now and I know others may disagree - but 'Northern Ireland' should have never become part of the UK - I know it's all about the Imperial strength that England once had - but that's gone now...
And sooner than later, Ireland is going to re-unite. Most people have resigned themselves to that fact....The 'UK' don't even want it anymore. And more and more cross-border work is being done to improve relations between North and South.
I could easily go on and on....but hey, thats politics.
__________________________________
------------------------
26 and 6 = 1.
Unity and Peace
Charco Advanced Member
Ireland
1,979 posts Joined: Nov, 2001
Posted - 2009/06/13 : 23:44:15
I know that everyone has the right to their own opinion and that is yours and I don't hold anything against you for your pride:
Here's my opinion:
Smoogie, you seriously need to read more about Irish history before making comments like you just have. Republic of Ireland 'Pull-out'?!?! Gain independance is what it's oherwise known as- as should the northern 6 counties that make up 'Northern Ireland'. Did you know that the Ulster that makes up 'Northern Ireland' actually has 9 counties but the British Government weren't going to get the 3 most Catholic counties so they cut them out?
I am from Tyrone, which, if you know your geography, is in the North. I've an Irish Passport, Irish Identity and an Irish birth certificate. Irish through and through. Not sure where I'm going with this now and I know others may disagree - but 'Northern Ireland' should have never become part of the UK - I know it's all about the Imperial strength that England once had - but that's gone now...
And sooner than later, Ireland is going to re-unite. Most people have resigned themselves to that fact....The 'UK' don't even want it anymore. And more and more cross-border work is being done to improve relations between North and South.
I could easily go on and on....but hey, thats politics.
__________________________________
------------------------
26 and 6 = 1.
Unity and Peace
Wilky Banned
United Kingdom
6,198 posts Joined: Mar, 2008
Posted - 2009/06/14 : 08:32:29
OP u know jack shite mate. please tell me in your own words how the BNP are "racist"? That word dusnt even have any meanin anymore. The way its goin pakistan & poland will be part of the uk within 20 years
Triquatra Moderator
United Kingdom
12,640 posts Joined: Nov, 2003
Posted - 2009/06/14 : 09:55:28
i was about about to back wilky just then..and say, No, the BNP's policys cant really be classed as racist...but the actual members within the party are, and they just hide behind political sunshades....
there is a link on that site to the BNP site, where the constitution is hosted so if you want to fact check you can (dont just assume im going to pull all this crap off some liberal-biased site) in short their constitution blocks non-whites getting into the party. also none of the other partys that the BNP want to block want to further themselves by preventing "White" officers from joining the police force...but yet the BNP would do the same to non-white's..
^^is racist policy
so yah, even some of their policys laid out in there constitution are racist...so i cant even back you there..
they're much like extreme feminists... (how feminism is supposed to be about equal rights, but end up going so extreme that it ends up giving more rights to woman) in much the same way the BNP want tighter immigration controls..but then they just keep pushing their policys to the point of killing equality in the country (as a small example they want prefrence given to white-only-british-origin familys when it comes to housing for instance).
what the party seems to miss completly is that no other developed country runs this way.
put simply, the BNP hate colour and background diversity within england. they think immigrents have taken our jobs and are draining our resources. and the only way to solve this is to stop immigration, and ask the non-british-white-origin persons to "polietly leave the country" the vast majority of the members are at heart, just racists who back the BNP because their policys will get rid of those pakistani's and black's that keep invading thier council estates.
(robin evans for instance, when he left the party in blackburn he denounced them as "largely made up of football hooligans and drug dealers")
the only good thing i can say about the BNP is that they are prime examples on media bias. if anyone they are a perfect example of how the media twists and warps the news to their own end..the fact the BNP hate the media is the only thing that we agree on.
i think my favorite part is where the BNP bang on about "non-whites" causing all the crime.. then you look around england and see skin-head football hooligans and chavs who try to start with anyone they can (on the internet as well dont you know!)
i couldnt be part of a party that would turn to one of hardcores best producers and say "heres a nice financial incentive...now please go home"
dunno why i bothered pasting a different site - just go to the BNP's policys page lol they're quite open about wanting to crush anyone who isnt british http://bnp.org.uk/policies/
its nothing to worry about though - the BNP are loosing members every year, less people voted for them in this european election that any other year :)
(got plenty of time this morning, and i feel like siding with smoogie, i love this country, but god damn do the BNP Make us look stupid)
Triquatra Moderator
United Kingdom
12,640 posts Joined: Nov, 2003
Posted - 2009/06/14 : 11:01:40
quote:Originally posted by Wilky:
Yes at the moment non whites can join the bnp. Why cant that be the case? Whats wrong with that?
Its perfectly ok to have the black police association and the black music awards tho?
no, at the moment, their constitution BLOCKs non-whites. invalidating the rest of what you said, go back and read what a I wrote.
thats the whole point well done for missing out everything else i said - in previous BNP discussions thats exactly what the pro BNP members did, just avoid the points they didnt like..
**edit, you just spent cant without the t didnt you
and whats wrong with it? like that site says..
the Black Police Association does not seek to further the advantages of "Black" officers by preventing "White" officers from joining the police force; and likewise the black music awards isnt seeking to further their advances by illiminating all forms of white music out of england: whereas the BNP want to give priority to WHITE british-origin peoples in everything thats racist - why is that concept so hard to understand?
Wilky Banned
United Kingdom
6,198 posts Joined: Mar, 2008
Posted - 2009/06/14 : 11:09:38
I missed the t off it was ment to read cant join the bnp at the moment... U also avoided my questions in responce to ur post
Triquatra Moderator
United Kingdom
12,640 posts Joined: Nov, 2003
Posted - 2009/06/14 : 11:11:08
I did reply as soon as i realised you spelt cant "can" which changed your whole statement...
hard to reply properly to a post when the original post's meaning is changed with a single "
t"
i edited it at 11:09:56
you posted that at 11:09:38 whilst i was in the process of editing it.
Triquatra Moderator
United Kingdom
12,640 posts Joined: Nov, 2003
Posted - 2009/06/14 : 11:22:51
i dont want to stand too much on this issue, firstly because its a failing/pointless arguement, as prooved in the last topic there are about 3 members out of 30'000 who agree with the BNP, so its a waste of typing just for the entertainment of 3 members..secondly because nothing i bothered writing was ever adressed properly (in any of the threads) and thirdly simply because the BNP arent gaining any ground, the media are doing an ab-so-lutly superb job at smearing them with both facts and lies, either way, its working, they have less supporters this election that last election..
...so yeah, nothing for us diversity-in-england lovers to worry about.
UKIP have the same kind of policys, without being so white-supremisist-like.
Wilky Banned
United Kingdom
6,198 posts Joined: Mar, 2008
Posted - 2009/06/14 : 12:27:34
ok so why is it ok for there to be a black music awards or a black police association but the BNP cant have just white members?
also, 30,000 dont even use this for, for a start i have 4 accounts... which of one i only use
Triquatra Moderator
United Kingdom
12,640 posts Joined: Nov, 2003
Posted - 2009/06/14 : 13:00:27
**yawn**
im not going to repeat myself, im just going to repaste what i wrote, so that you have a second chance of actually reading it.
quote:[b]Originally posted by DjTriquatra:
and whats wrong with it? like that site says..
the Black Police Association does not seek to further the advantages of "Black" officers by preventing "White" officers from joining the police force; and likewise the black music awards isnt seeking to further their advances by illiminating all forms of white music out of england:
whereas the BNP want to give priority to WHITE british-origin peoples in everything
thats racist - why is that concept so hard to understand?
30,000? i could have said 50,000,0000 members, it wouldnt have made any difference cause its not going to increase the numbers of the people who agree with the BNP.
frankly i think you'll be hard pushed to find anyone on this site who thinks that darwin and his family and everyone else of non-white-british origin should be given some money and politely be asked to leave the country like your party want, although i guess "politely asking" is a marginally better policy than the previous years one which would have made it a mandetory thing - how long till that comes back though?...not long im sure.
Wilky Banned
United Kingdom
6,198 posts Joined: Mar, 2008
Posted - 2009/06/14 : 13:09:44
mate did u listen to nick griffin on talksport the other day?
basically, in short he said people wont be askd to leave the country unless they are illegal immigrants.. their main prioity is to cut immigration..
also, there is **** all wrong with wanting whites only to join the BNP.. there is no need for a black police assosition nor a black music awards... now that could be classed as racist, oh wait a minute, it cant as you cant be racist against whites
Printer friendly
Posted - 2009/06/13 : 20:31:17
Posted - 2009/06/13 : 20:40:25
