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 Posted - 2009/06/28 : 21:19:22
OK. the guy was a little on the wacky side but is without a doubt a musical genius!
I've always said, & always will, that MJ is my favorite artist of all time & if you don't like MJ's music you don't know music : P
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Posted - 2009/06/29 : 10:19:56
http://digg.com/celebrity/Jordan_Chandler_Tells_The_Truth_About_Micheal_Jackson_Molest
I'd like to say one thing TOLD YOU SO
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Posted - 2009/06/29 : 10:48:55
When his Neverland ranch was raided the FBI found pictures of naked boys on Polaroid pics.
So something dosent quite add up there.
Oh and yes i did like his music btw (well some of his songs)
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Posted - 2009/06/29 : 10:51:13
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Originally posted by kathryn:
When his Neverland ranch was raided the FBI found pictures of naked boys on Polaroid pics.
So something dosent quite add up there.
Oh and yes i did like his music btw (well some of his songs)
1st ive heard on that one. Also, he wasnt found guilty on them?
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Posted - 2009/06/29 : 11:09:15
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Originally posted by Wilky:
http//:digg.com/celebrity/Jordan_Chandler_Tells_The_Truth_About_Micheal_Jackson_Molest
I'd like to say one thing TOLD YOU SO
Why does that redirect me to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertext_Transfer_Protocol?
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Posted - 2009/06/29 : 11:15:41
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Originally posted by Wilky:
quote:
Originally posted by kathryn:
When his Neverland ranch was raided the FBI found pictures of naked boys on Polaroid pics.
So something dosent quite add up there.
Oh and yes i did like his music btw (well some of his songs)
1st ive heard on that one. Also, he wasnt found guilty on them?
link?
cause im looking everywhere and im not finding anything on that, just sounds like made up stuff that just gets passed on word of mouth "heard that"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1491944/Timeline-The-Michael-Jackson-charges.html
only one i could find about the secret room was
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4315807.stm
personally i think he was a child.
and i still say no parent would accept money to shut up if thier child was really molested.
no amount of money would ever shut a parent up.
heres a working version of wilkys link
http://www.techbanyan.com/4554/jordan-chandler-admits-lied-about-michael-jackson/
"Jordan Chandler Admits He Lied About Michael Jackson"
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Posted - 2009/06/29 : 12:16:53
quote:
Originally posted by Wilky:
http//:digg.com/celebrity/Jordan_Chandler_Tells_The_Truth_About_Micheal_Jackson_Molest
I'd like to say one thing TOLD YOU SO
http//:digg.com/celebrity/Jordan_Chandler_Tells_The_Truth_About_Micheal_Jackson_Molest
i'll try again to my original one lol poted it off my fone so had to manually type it lol
any way triq, you're right and thats my arguement with everyone, you just would accept any amount of money if it really happend.. but then you have the whole shanon mathews case...
jacko whacko was completely innocent.. he was a bit ****ed in the head, but arnt most of us?
yes he slept in the same bed as kids , so what to him it was like a sleepover as he was just a big kid himself
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Posted - 2009/06/29 : 12:24:41
seen as i cant get my links right today lets have another bash.. triq, ur link is completely different to the one i posted.. so here is the exact same just a different source
http://www.ireadbuzz.com/2009/06/jordan-chandler-lied-about-michael.html
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Posted - 2009/06/29 : 12:33:51
quote:
Originally posted by Wilky:
quote:
Originally posted by Wilky:
http//:digg.com/celebrity/Jordan_Chandler_Tells_The_Truth_About_Micheal_Jackson_Molest
I'd like to say one thing TOLD YOU SO
http//:digg.com/celebrity/Jordan_Chandler_Tells_The_Truth_About_Micheal_Jackson_Molest
i'll try again to my original one lol poted it off my fone so had to manually type it lol
any way triq, you're right and thats my arguement with everyone, you just would accept any amount of money if it really happend.. but then you have the whole shanon mathews case...
jacko whacko was completely innocent.. he was a bit ****ed in the head, but arnt most of us?
yes he slept in the same bed as kids , so what to him it was like a sleepover as he was just a big kid himself
Just a big kid himself? If he werent Michael Jackson who the hell would accept that as an excuse? He didnt have a childhood so it makes it ok to sleep in bed with children, play truth or dare or whatever the hell he did with them? What a load of shit.
You have no proof, just as i dont, that he did or didnt do anything sinister with these kids. I seem to recall a story in the news that one of his alleged victims described exactly certain unique features on Michael Jacksons body and genitals, of course i take that with a pinch of salt as with every story in the news but i do think taking from all the stories and news coverage etc that something untoward occured.
Yes, it is a rather disgusting notion that a person could take money for their silence of what may or may not have occured between their child and Jackson, but as you mentioned Wilky there is the case of Shannon Matthews. Her mother faking her own childs kidnapping in the hope of making some money out of it from the community around her. Also as ive mentioned the case of Josef Fritzl locking his daughter in his cellar for decades, raping her, forcing her to bare his children, which he allowed to suffer in the cramped cellar for their entire lives up until the case was investigated and they were found and released. You all seem to be forgetting just how ****ed up people can be. Gary Glitter made (in some peoples eyes) very good music. He was found guilty have having sex with minors, do you turn a blind eye to this or are you happy to judge him because he was foiund guilty but dont dare soil Jacksons name as he was found innocent by a jury? Surely you're not so narrow-minded to accept that as conclusive proof. Is it not possible that you are all allowing you're idolization of Jackson cloud you're judgement? I think maybe so. Ive never particularly been a fan of his music, nor do i think he "changed the face of music as we know it" so im perhaps in a better position to judge and to me it all looked very, very dubious.
I know you both have kids Triquatra and Wilky, so wouldnt you think there was something not right if youre child slept over at a mates house one night and you found out the other child's middle-aged father climbed into bed with your child (i know that's not exactly the same situation as with Jackson but you get my point)? Course you ****ing would! You'd probably (in the case of Wilky) be round the guys house smashing windows, setting fire to his home and spray-painting "PEDO" on his door and car followed by a knuckle-dragging mob with pitchforks and torches (the sticks on fire variety not the battery-operated sort).
There is no concrete proof either way and i cant really say the man was a peadophile for sure, just as you cant really say he was innocent, but there is no way you can argue the side that it didnt look very suspicous, surely. No matter how much of a childhood/lifetime idol he was to you.
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Posted - 2009/06/29 : 12:45:28
Meathead, im not even a micheal jackson fan. i couldnt even name you an album of his of the top of my head.
i know a few tracks that it max...
the fact that people jump on the band wagon ****s me off...
meathead... if u had a kid and id apparently done what he did.. and i offered you x amount of millions and said look mate, i did **** all, im as innocent as the next man but have the money anyway... what would you do?
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Posted - 2009/06/29 : 13:06:12
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Meathead, im not even a micheal jackson fan. i couldnt even name you an album of his of the top of my head.
i know a few tracks that it max...
the fact that people jump on the band wagon ****s me off...
meathead... if u had a kid and id apparently done what he did.. and i offered you x amount of millions and said look mate, i did **** all, im as innocent as the next man but have the money anyway... what would you do?
It's not neccessarily people jumping on a band-wagon. Anyone can see the sinister overtones with this story and anyone with a suspicous mind, like myself, would assume the worst and call it. Assuming he's guilty until the allegations were disproven in a way that is satisfactory. 12 rednecks doesnt satisfy my suspicions unfortunatly. The criminal justice system is not something i trust to be water-tight.
I i thought you had done anything to my children like that and you tried to bribe me i'd beat you to within an inch of your life (im not claiming to be a hard man here but anybody who i thought had harmed my children i would take a chainsaw to without a moments hesitation), i would then call the police and demand a full investigation. A supposedly innocent man attempting to pay me off would for such a thing would strike me as extremely suspicous and i would assume you had something to hide and there was some truth in the allegations. Some people however, as i have explained, would happily take the money and not give a shit about their child's now damaged mental state. Some people are ****ed up and money means more to them than their own child. I assume this was the case with regards to the parents of the accusing child, but perhaps it was all a setup i dont know, but Jackson paying them off made it that little bit more strange adn arouses a fair bit of suspicion. Wouldn't you agree?
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Posted - 2009/06/29 : 13:12:56
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Meathead, im not even a micheal jackson fan. i couldnt even name you an album of his of the top of my head.
i know a few tracks that it max...
the fact that people jump on the band wagon ****s me off...
meathead... if u had a kid and id apparently done what he did.. and i offered you x amount of millions and said look mate, i did **** all, im as innocent as the next man but have the money anyway... what would you do?
It's not neccessarily people jumping on a band-wagon. Anyone can see the sinister overtones with this story and anyone with a suspicous mind, like myself, would assume the worst and call it. Assuming he's guilty until the allegations were disproven in a way that is satisfactory. 12 rednecks doesnt satisfy my suspicions unfortunatly. The criminal justice system is not something i trust to be water-tight.
I i thought you had done anything to my children like that and you tried to bribe me i'd beat you to within an inch of your life (im not claiming to be a hard man here but anybody who i thought had harmed my children i would take a chainsaw to without a moments hesitation), i would then call the police and demand a full investigation. A supposedly innocent man attempting to pay me off would for such a thing would strike me as extremely suspicous and i would assume you had something to hide and there was some truth in the allegations. Some people however, as i have explained, would happily take the money and not give a shit about their child's now damaged mental state. Some people are ****ed up and money means more to them than their own child. I assume this was the case with regards to the parents of the accusing child, but perhaps it was all a setup i dont know, but Jackson paying them off made it that little bit more strange adn arouses a fair bit of suspicion. Wouldn't you agree?
i would agree he didnt do himself any favours by paying them off but it probably wasnt down to him to pay them...
mate i'd expect the chainsaw... infact i'd do it myself.
i also agree the world is full of ****ed up people, including MJ but i cant see him of doing anything wrong here
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Posted - 2009/06/29 : 13:35:21
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i would agree he didnt do himself any favours by paying them off but it probably wasnt down to him to pay them...
mate i'd expect the chainsaw... infact i'd do it myself.
i also agree the world is full of ****ed up people, including MJ but i cant see him of doing anything wrong here
Fair enough mate. I see you're sticking with your view, as am i. Just leave it at that i guess.
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Posted - 2009/06/29 : 13:35:39
imo goes back to what i said, about him being a child himself in the mind. a mental condition, not everything has to be sinister
somthing not right? of course, he obviously needed "help" as it were as he was clearly very troubled and missed out on a real childhood!...but i wouldnt let my child sleepover at anyones house who was mentally ill or didnt know.
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Posted - 2009/06/29 : 16:21:33
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imo goes back to what i said, about him being a child himself in the mind. a mental condition, not everything has to be sinister
somthing not right? of course, he obviously needed "help" as it were as he was clearly very troubled and missed out on a real childhood!...but i wouldnt let my child sleepover at anyones house who was mentally ill or didnt know.
thats just it mate. a perv or no perv, its the fact he wa screwed in the head they even contenplated lettin the kids sleepover make the parent even more screwd up!
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