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DjSakari
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How's education in UK and other parts of Europe? I've heard the schools in my country are insanely easy and less demanding according to a German girl in my grade who moved here last year. I feel like a lazy piece of shxt for complaining about the 3 college level courses I'm taking next year (spanish, american history, english).

So how is education outside of the US?


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Are you talking about AP classes? I live in Virginia and my AP Human Geography scores got cancelled because someone opened a packet early. Lame. I have to retake it the 3rd week of school. : (



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Originally posted by xMx: Are you talking about AP classes? I live in Virginia and my AP Human Geography scores got cancelled because someone opened a packet early. Lame. I have to retake it the 3rd week of school. : (


I'm embarassased to say I scored a 2/5 on my AP Euro exam. Never slack off all year, and cram for two weeks before the test. I'm taking AP English, College Spanish IV, and College Amer. History. The rest are normal classes, and my electives are Philosophy and Drawing/Painting


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Oooh cool. I've got AP English, AP Environmental Science, AP US History all lined up. AP Human Geography was the other choice to AP Euro. Good stuff. Yeah, you're going into Junior year now?



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quote:
Originally posted by DjSakari:
So how is education outside of the US?


In regards to public education, in a lot of European and Asian countries, it is far superior to the American system. It's quite a revolting difference to be honest.

  • Teachers tend to be a lot better - bad ones get sacked instead of pointlessly defended (in a lot of cases) for one.

  • School starts later but ends around the same time. Trust me, it's better to start at 7 years old instead of 4 or 5.

  • Tons and tons and tons of electives. Over here, they're fewer and further in between. Usually you only have the very basic ones, because everything else is too expensive (sometimes a lie, sometimes not).

  • More often than not, parents can actually choose what school their kids go to. Not satisfied with a school? Switch them to a different one.

  • A large portion of curriculums here tend to be influenced by "special interests." Obviously leads to quite a few problems, i.e. removal of sex ed classes (OMG THINK OF CHILDREN ONOES ONOES HOW HORRIBLASDAFRHEIUASHUFGSDG) and removal of "religiously charged" topics (like evolution/creationism), just to name two. Texas is probably the worst offender.

  • Actual, planned out, logical funding for US public schools? lololololololololololololo


Those are only several of the problems. Oh yeah, and the No Child Left Behind act is a complete f*cking joke.

Higher education wise, it tends to vary wherever you go.

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Originally posted by xMx:
Are you talking about AP classes? I live in Virginia and my AP Human Geography scores got cancelled because someone opened a packet early. Lame. I have to retake it the 3rd week of school. : (


Ugh, sorry to hear that.


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quote:
Originally posted by DjSakari:
How's education in UK and other parts of Europe? I've heard the schools in my country are insanely easy and less demanding according to a German girl in my grade who moved here last year. I feel like a lazy piece of shxt for complaining about the 3 college level courses I'm taking next year (spanish, american history, english).

So how is education outside of the US?



I heard you were leaving the forums?


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I missed the forums haha.

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quote:
Originally posted by Rayovac:
  • A large portion of curriculums here tend to be influenced by "special interests." Obviously leads to quite a few problems, i.e. removal of sex ed classes (OMG THINK OF CHILDREN ONOES ONOES HOW HORRIBLASDAFRHEIUASHUFGSDG) and removal of "religiously charged" topics (like evolution/creationism), just to name two. Texas is probably the worst offender.




  • I remember a kid in my science class Freshman year of Highschool.

    He flat out refused to listen to evolution, and took doing a 40 page work packet over learning about it.


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    Edited by - TheOneNOnly on 2009/08/10 02:51:52
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    Japanese education is seriously the worst, it's all about remembering, the teacher will basically say "if you know everything in this book you will get 100%"... there is nothing about extended learning or thinking outside the box, just remember this and that. I've worked with new university grads that know nothing, I asked them what they majored it and they said computer science but don't know anything outside of the text books they used. They also reference the textbooks all the time. Nothing against the Japanese, in fact the system works in Japan, just I don't think it very good "education".

    The reason for this is because the only way to learn japanese characters is to just remember them, you need to learn 50,000 characters to be able to graduate school, so from an early age your education system is based on remembering things... sort of crappy if you ask me, if I had kids (touch wood) I would never put them in Japanese schools, unless you want a robot drone for a kid.


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    quote:
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    The reason for this is because the only way to learn japanese characters is to just remember them, you need to learn 50,000 characters to be able to graduate school, so from an early age your education system is based on remembering things... sort of crappy if you ask me, if I had kids (touch wood) I would never put them in Japanese schools, unless you want a robot drone for a kid.



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    Finnish schools: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/4073753.stm ;)



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    I've heard that finnish schools are ****ing amazing if you get the chance to go to one.



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    quote:
    Originally posted by DjSakari:
    How's education in UK


    *buts a sticker on this thread* "could do better"


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    we still miles ahead of america atm, but political correctness is increasingly taking priority over education. give it time.

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