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 Posted - 2009/10/25 : 18:02:27
BBC Deputy Director-General Mark
Byford has confirmed that Nick Griffin
will be invited onto Question Time
again as details emerged of how the
original programme was stage
managed to attack the British National
Party leader.
Mr Byford said the BNP’s electoral
support and two European Parliament
seats meant the party fulfilled the
necessary criteria to deserve an invite
to the show.
While Mr Griffin would not be on
Question Time regularly, Mr Byford
said he could appear again from time
to time because the BNP was “not
banned from the airwaves”.
Meanwhile, further details of how last
week’s Question Time was stage-
managed into an hour of ‘attack Nick
Griffin’ have emerged.
The extent of the preparations has
clearly breached the BBC’s rules on
impartiality and could easily be the
subject of court action, observers in
many media sources have pointed out.
Certain people were handpicked to be
in the audience for the very purpose
of asking the “right” questions. These
people were subsequently selected
“randomly” by host David Dimbleby.
In addition the audience was
specifically prompted before the show
to ask “robust” questions and told
that they should boo as much as they
wanted. The audience was not
selected on the traditional basis of
randomness, but from a predefined list
of people identified as BNP-hostile. Of
the 200 people invited to be guests,
about eight were known or suspected
to be BNP-friendly.
In short the entire programme was
crafted to be highly politically biased
— all in direct contravention of the
BBC’s charter.
According to media reports, many in
the audience “appear to have been
rushed through the vetting process in
a bid to emphasise the multicultural
nature of London.”
In addition, audience members were
briefed to ask “provocative” questions
and host David Dimbleby told them it
was acceptable to boo.
The Jewish schoolboy Joel Weiner
who asked Mr Griffin about the
Holocaust, confirmed that he applied
to attend a Question Time programme
more than a year ago, but was
approached just 24 hours before
filming.
The BBC denies cherry-picking
activists or potential troublemakers
and said that those selected came from
a database only containing those who
had applied to go on the show before
Mr Griffin’s appearance had been
confirmed.
However an Asian man, Khush Klare,
who was given free rein to attack Mr
Griffin, said in the media that that he
had not even applied to be on the
show — and had been approached to
do so “only a couple of days before
the show.”
Members of the audience also
confirmed they were handed a
detailed crib-sheet which encouraged
them to ask questions which were
“short, sharp and provocative.”
The word “provocative” was
underlined in the document handed to
them before they went into the studio.
* According to sources, BBC director
general Mark Thompson has been told
by lawyers advising the BBC that the
in-house rules on impartiality were not
observed on the programme and that
“a right of reply” may be the only
remedy if the BNP chooses to test the
BBC’s rules on impartiality in court.
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Posted - 2009/10/25 : 23:36:54
While I dont agree one iota with the BNP's political stance, the BBC's actions were off. He should be given a right of reply.
Wilky, i dont know if your a strong supporter or BNP or if your playing the troll to laugh at all the people who bite =P
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Posted - 2009/10/25 : 23:39:31
the bnp are a fecking joke...
the party is flawed in so many ways...
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Posted - 2009/10/26 : 00:04:22
its not really news, the only site to "publish" this is the BNP site
i agree totally with Liley - I (like most of england) dont agree with the BNP but
he should have been given right of reply - this isnt the first time the BBC have shown pretty sickening Bias and trying to cover it up with their joke of a "impartiality law"
it was great seeing somone burn a TV license banner outside broadcast house, it shouldnt have taken the BNP to make the public wake up and start burning banners like that, of course, you would have only seen that particular scene if you watched the news channels that arent run by the BBC.
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Posted - 2009/10/26 : 00:22:10
It wouldn't have mattered if he'd been given the whole hour to himself, he'd still have come out of it looking like a cock.
He's only effective amongst people who share his views, any other situation and he (and his party) come across badly to say the least.
It's been said so many times before, the BNP are only getting (very limited) success because of how badly the last umpteen governments have handled a lot of the issues that the 'ordinary' public feel strongly about. Poor choices, poor policies, lack of information and clarity have all made people see them as a valid alternative. Look closely though and it's just a little bit more sinister than 'let's control immigration'.
If you want to snub the big 3 parties but still have your say, go for UKIP - the acceptible face of racism! :P
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Posted - 2009/10/26 : 08:39:16
there u go... just because its said in the media the its true.. u dont know every body that voted. and for your informatition bnp membership has gone up 30% since the program. Whats wrong with bnps policies? I went through them again yesterday and failed to find anything wrong with them. I will tell u why the media hate nick so much... His national front background got **** all to do with his policies
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IMMIGRATION – time to say
ENOUGH!
On current demographic trends, we,
the native British people, will be an
ethnic minority in our own country
within sixty years.
To ensure that this does not happen,
and that the British people retain their
homeland and identity, we call for an
immediate halt to all further
immigration, the immediate
deportation of criminal and illegal
immigrants, and the introduction of a
system of voluntary resettlement
whereby those immigrants who are
legally here will be afforded the
opportunity to return to their lands of
ethnic origin assisted by a generous
financial incentives both for
individuals and for the countries in
question.
We will abolish the ‘positive
discrimination’ schemes that have
made white Britons second-class
citizens. We will also clamp down on
the flood of ‘asylum seekers’, all of
whom are either bogus or can find
refuge much nearer their home
countries.
EUROPE – back to British
independence!
We are opposed to the Single
European Currency, and support the
overwhelming majority of the British
people in their desire to keep the
Pound and our traditional weights and
measures. At the same time, we are for
the best possible relationship with our
European neighbours and believe that
the nations of Europe should be free
to trade and cooperate whenever it is
mutually beneficial, though without
being forced into a political and
economic straitjacket – political
unification. Accordingly, we stand for
British withdrawal from the European
Union. In place of the EU, we intend to
aim towards greater national self-
sufficiency, and to work to restore
Britain’s family and trading ties with
Australia, Canada and New Zealand,
and to trade with the rest of the world
as it suits us. Following our withdrawal
from the EU, the BNP will use the £43
million per day net contribution Britain
at present makes to the European
Union to fund many far more useful
projects at home.
LAW AND ORDER – crack down on
crime!
The BNP will crack down on crime and
restore public safety and confidence.
We will free the police and courts from
the politically correct straitjacket that is
stopping them from doing their job
properly. The liberal fixation with the
‘rights’ of criminals must be replaced
by concern for the rights of victims,
and the right of innocent people not to
become victims. We support the re-
introduction of corporal punishment
for petty criminals and vandals, and
the restoration of capital punishment
for paedophiles, terrorists and
murderers as an option for judges in
cases where their guilt is proven
beyond dispute, as by DNA evidence
or being caught red-handed.
ECONOMY – British workers first!
Globalisation, with its export of jobs to
the Third World, is bringing ruin and
unemployment to British industries
and the communities that depend on
them. Accordingly, the BNP calls for
the selective exclusion of foreign-
made goods from British markets and
the reduction of foreign imports. We
will ensure that our manufactured
goods are, wherever possible,
produced in British factories,
employing British workers. When this
is done, unemployment in this country
will be brought to an end, and secure,
well-paid employment will flourish, at
last getting our people back to work
and ending the waste and injustice of
having more than 4 million people in a
hidden army of the unemployed
concealed by Labour’s statistical
fiddles. We further believe that British
industry, commerce, land and other
economic and natural assets belong in
the final analysis to the British nation
and people. To that end we will
restore our economy and land to
British ownership. We also call for
preference in the job market to be
given to native Britons. We will take
active steps to break up the socially,
economically and politically damaging
monopolies now being established by
the supermarket giants. Finally we will
seek to give British workers a stake in
the success and prosperity of the
enterprises whose profits their labour
creates by encouraging worker
shareholder and co-operative
schemes
EDUCATION – discipline, standards,
achievement!
We are against the ‘trendy’ teaching
methods that have made Britain one of
the most poorly educated nations in
Europe. We will end the practice of
politically correct indoctrination in all
its guises and we will restore discipline
in the classroom, give authority back
to teachers and put far greater
emphasis on training young people in
the industrial and technological skills
necessary in the modern world. We
will also seek to instill in our young
people knowledge of and pride in the
history, cultures and heritage of the
native peoples of Britain.
AGRICULTURE – quality before
quantity!
We see a strong, healthy agriculture
sector as vital to the country. Britain’s
farming industry will be encouraged
to produce a much greater part of the
nation’s need in food products.
Priority will be switched from quantity
to quality, as we move from competing
in a global economy to maximum self-
sufficiency for Britain. We will ensure a
major shift to healthier and more
sustainable organic farming. We are
pledged to ensure the restoration of
Britain’s once great fishing industry
with the reimposition of the former
exclusion zones around our coast.
HEALTH – first-class healthcare for
all!
We are wholly committed to a free,
fully funded National Health Service for
all British citizens. We will revitalise the
Health Service by boosting staff and
bed numbers, slashing unnecessary
bureaucracy and by addressing the
root cause of low recruitment and
retention – low pay. We will see to it
that no money is given in foreign aid
while our own hospitals are short of
beds and the staff to run them. More
emphasis must be placed on healthy
living with greater understanding of
sickness prevention through physical
exercise, a healthier environment and
improved diets.
TRANSPORT – time to invest!
Increased investment is needed in
Britain’s public transport system to
bring it up to the highest standards in
the world. The fiasco of rail
privatisation with different companies
running services and track leading to
higher fares and lower safety also
needs to be resolved. Congestion of
our towns and cities must be eased by
the provision of greater incentives to
use rail and bus transport instead of
private cars. The first step is to end the
crime and squalor that puts so many
people off public transport. Motorists
must not be made the scapegoats for
government failure. Fuel tax should be
cut, motorway speed limits raised, and
hidden speed cameras should be
banned. Far more must be done to
encourage the development and use
of cleaner fuels.
ENVIRONMENT – a cleaner, greener
future!
Our ideal for Britain is that of a clean,
beautiful country, free of pollution in
all its forms. We will enforce standards
to curb those practices, whether by
business or the individual, which
cause environmental damage. “The
polluter pays to clean up the mess”
must become a fact of life, not an
electioneering slogan. In towns we
would work to replace the brutalist
modernism of 1960s-style-
architecture with a blend of traditional
local styles and materials and ensure
that developments take place on a
more human scale.
FOREIGN AID – time to spend our
money on our own people!
We reject the idea that Britain must
forever be obliged to subsidise the
incompetence and corruption of Third
World states by supplying them with
financial aid. We will link foreign aid
with our voluntary resettlement policy,
whereby those nations taking
significant numbers of people back to
their homelands will need cash to help
absorb those returning. The billions of
pounds saved every year by this
policy will also be reallocated to vital
services in Britain.
PENSIONERS – pensioners before
asylum seekers!
The conditions in which many of
Britain’s old people are forced to live
are a national disgrace. We are
pledged to ensure that all our old folk
are able to live in comfortable homes,
and will restore the earnings link with
pensions. Elderly people who have
paid a lifetime of taxes and reared
families should not have to sell their
homes to pay for care.
NORTHERN IRELAND – an end to
sectarianism!
Britain has shamefully allowed the
terrorists in N.I. to come close to
winning when the IRA could have
been destroyed years ago.
Government weakness has led to
hundreds of deaths and given those
same terrorists a share in government.
We would end all attempts to force the
people of Northern Ireland to accept
foreign interference in their affairs and
deal with terrorism – from whatever
side – once and for all. No one with
links to a terrorist organisation that
refuses to lay down its arms should be
allowed to enter government. We
would abolish state-supported
segregation in education. In the long
run, we wish to end the conflict in
Ireland by welcoming Eire as well as
Ulster as equal partners in a federation
of the nations of the British Isles.
DEFENCE – no more cuts!
Successive cuts in defence spending
have left Britain’s armed forces
perilously weak. We will boost Britain’s
armed forces to ensure that they are
able to deal with any emergency, and
defend our homeland and our
independence. We will bring our
troops back from Germany and
withdraw from NATO, since recent
political developments make both
commitments obsolete. We will close
all foreign military bases on British soil,
and refuse to risk British lives in
meddling ‘peace-keeping’ missions in
parts of the world where no British
interests are at stake – a position of
armed neutrality. We will also restore
national service for our young with
the option of civil or military service.
FOREIGN AFFAIRS – Britain’s
interests first!
Britain’s foreign relations should be
determined by the protection of our
own national interest and not by our
like or dislike of other nations’ internal
politics. We would have no quarrel
with any nation that does not threaten
British interests. We will maintain an
independent foreign policy of our
own, and not a spineless subservience
to the USA, the ‘international
community’, or any other country.
DEMOCRACY – letting the people
decide!
The British people invented modern
Parliamentary democracy. Yet in recent
years the British people have been
denied their democratic rights. On
issue after issue, the views of the
majority of British people have been
ignored and overridden by a Politically
Correct ‘elite’ which thinks it knows
best. On immigration, on Capital
Punishment, on the surrender of
British sovereignty to the EU and in
numerous other areas, democracy has
been absent as Labour, Tories and Lib-
Dems conspire in election after election
to offer the British people no real
choice on such vital issues. The BNP
exists to give the British people, that
choice, and thus to restore and defend
the basic democratic rights we have all
been denied. We favour more
democracy, not less, not just at
national but at regional and local level.
Power should be devolved to the
lowest level possible so that local
communities can make decisions
which affect them. We will remove
legal curbs on freedom of speech
imposed by successive Governments
over the last 40 years. We will
implement a Bill of Rights
guaranteeing fundamental freedoms
to the British people. We will ensure
that ordinary British people have real
democratic power over their own lives
and that Government, local and
national, is truly accountable to the
people who elect it.
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Posted - 2009/10/26 : 08:48:49
above is bnps policy page. please go through them and in your own words tell me the flaws... oh and pick out the racist parts
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Posted - 2009/10/26 : 08:53:17
the fact they deny the holocaust and support hitlers aims is enough to put me of...
they only claim to disapprove of the holocaust to gain access to polling in Europe...
theya re moulding their campaign to be less 'racist' so more people view them more realistically...
sounds like you've got caught in their net, wilky...
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Posted - 2009/10/26 : 10:06:31
as far as the holocaust people need to get over it its nearly 2010. nick griffin said he denied the numbers as lets face it no ****er on this planet knows the truth in that FACT. what people and the media need to realise is if they dont change the record at some point thats goin to drive votes to the way of BNP. ive been a BNP supporter for over 10 years call me racist or say i got caught in some net... dusnt bother me. most british/black and asain people will see it as racism as its on the news and in the paper as that so it has to be
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Posted - 2009/10/26 : 10:10:24
quote:
Originally posted by Wilky:
as far as the holocaust people need to get over it its nearly 2010. nick griffin said he denied the numbers as lets face it no ****er on this planet knows the truth in that FACT. what people and the media need to realise is if they dont change the record at some point thats goin to drive votes to the way of BNP. ive been a BNP supporter for over 10 years call me racist or say i got caught in some net... dusnt bother me. most british/black and asain people will see it as racism as its on the news and in the paper as that so it has to be
a very narrow-minded, short sighted and arrogent view, but unfortunately a view nonetheless...
democracy hurts...
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Posted - 2009/10/26 : 10:16:53
Those policies are great if you're white and British.
I do agree with a lot of the sentiment in that, but it's been written carefully to make sure it's not offensive to anybody. I bet you could see most of that in other parties policies too - nobody wants to admit to the 'dodgy' stuff lurking between the lines.
There's been enough seen and written about the BNP to know that they're not all harmless patriots who just want a better life for everybody in this country. That doesn't mean all it's members are evil racists either so i wouldn't suggest that. BUT they are only interested in attracting a certain section of the public - and it's that that makes everything look just a little bit wrong.
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Posted - 2009/10/26 : 10:24:50
quote:
Originally posted by Wilky:
above is bnps policy page. please go through them and in your own words tell me the flaws... oh and pick out the racist parts
wow, those are the loosest policys ive ever seen, seriously, i could have wrote those and just thrown them up there "hey look, this will make everything better" in fact that it all looks rather based on assumed functionality.
interesting to note that since the last paddywack you threw about the BNP Wilky - they've been forced to allow people of "non-white" origins into their party, so in that respect, no, there is nothing racist left in their policys, nick griffin has certainly tidied up the face of the BNP with a little help from a few threats of legal action against the party if they didnt change the clearly racist rule.
are you denying that the BNP have not had a racist past wilky? in the words of nick griffin himself (quoted from question time) "I have brought the British National party from the frankly an anti-semitic and racist organisation, "
this part maybe tricky for you to grasp - but there arent many people who will back a party that has taken 10+ years to change its policys and practices enough for it to be classed as "non-racist"
anyway - theres no way in hell im going to let you think im dodging the "policys"
"the restoration of capital punishment"
i am against this.
"free,fully funded National Health Service for
all British citizens"
I dont want a national healthcare service, i want privatised.
We are against the ‘trendy’ teaching methods
i am highly dubious as to what they mean by "trendy", this is yet another thing in this highly "hey..do this..and this will be better" assumed functionality policy
sustainable organic farming
organic is gay, GM is the way.
there is alot more in there - but the thing is, i cant keep pasting it, as its simply a case of pasting somthing like
"We will free the police and courts from
the politically correct straitjacket that is
stopping them from doing their job
properly."
and saying "What EXACTLY does that mean??" i mean, its SO non-specific, so much of it is. and what?? give the police militcia powers and right to decide on the spot if "use of force" is need..and "how much use of force is necessary"??
and
assisted by a generous
financial incentives both for
individuals and for the countries in
question.
theres alot of money being pulled out of peoples arses here, we are in a recession.
again there is nothing on how they will make england "a beautiful country, free of pollution in
all its forms" but then offering up the only way they will do this is "the polluter pays to clean up the mess".... again with the assumed functionality, these arent solutions, most of england will want to hear real answers on this, there is nothing about Civil Ceremony rights, another thing many people will want to hear about, there is nothing about human embryonic research and their views on that..all things i would expect to see in a party policy...views on abortion?
just out of interest, how did USH.net get you to stop posting on their forums?
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honestly, a K-PAXIan policy would make more sense than this. and would be easier to impliment
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