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Triquatra
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 Posted - 2009/12/12 : 14:22:57
lol! i didnt even pick up on that! need to get my mind back in the gutter!
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kathryn
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Posted - 2009/12/12 : 14:43:49
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Originally posted by DjTriquatra:
lol! i didnt even pick up on that! need to get my mind back in the gutter!
Typical Stu with his dirty witty mind
I have to be careful with him at home cos if i have a cup of tea brewing and ask him to 'dunk mi bag' as in swirl the tea bag around in the cup he's like ok drop ya pants
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snerkler
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Posted - 2009/12/14 : 08:47:01
If playing live I have a rough idea of what I'd like to play, but then just tend to go with the flow and end up playing completely random tracks. You just get a feel of what would go best next.
For CD's I always plan as I'm a bit of a perfectionist and it bugs me if any mix goes slightly out or 2 tracks don't sound good mixing together for whatever reason.
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Jay-Nitro
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Posted - 2009/12/14 : 13:58:34
problems with planned sets
1 - the crowds mood may not be suited to your planned set and it slowly takes a downward spiral because your reluctant to break away from your plan.
2- what would you do if you hear that dj/dj's before you had played stuff in your planned set...ive worked with alot of dj's who have come up to me during my set 'awww this was my 3rd choon in my set'....and then they have still played it regardless even though I had.
problems with off the cuff freestyle sets
1 - there arent any problems! you should know your records like the back of your hands. cock ups shouldnt be an issue. . .and musical flare would shine through on a dj picking out choonz as he goes and making the crowd bounce to his set. deffo's not a planned set.
so in short....freestyles the best method, and one you'll always enjoy alot more on the night when it goes well
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2009/12/14 : 14:41:57
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so in short....freestyles the best method, and one you'll always enjoy alot more on the night when it goes well
Yeah it's not quite what you get at raves like HTID these days lol. Pretty much the same 10 tunes played all night. Although i don't go in the main room's anyway as i hate what is played.
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Sprakie
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 Posted - 2009/12/14 : 14:48:42
I never normally plan what i'm gonna play, but i like to make note of which songs mix together, and where etc.. just not really any order.
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Jay-Nitro
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Posted - 2009/12/14 : 19:20:50
theres always the problem of everybody wanting to play the new releases and stuff....but ive always thought its more important to suprise the crowd and play diff stuff, that makes you stand out (maybe like a sore thumb) but still stand out lol
i think times your at home or even playing a gig somewhere you just stumble accross mixes which go together like bread and butter and you'll use them again and again at diff places. . . .some may say 'ahh thats a planned set' but i wouldnt say so. . .id just say you know if you drop a certain choon you'll have a great mix to follow it, and thats just a brucie bonus lol
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Dain-Ja
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Posted - 2009/12/14 : 20:41:13
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Originally posted by Jay-Nitro:
problems with off the cuff freestyle sets
1 - there arent any problems! you should know your records like the back of your hands. cock ups shouldnt be an issue. . .and musical flare would shine through on a dj picking out choonz as he goes and making the crowd bounce to his set. deffo's not a planned set.
so in short....freestyles the best method, and one you'll always enjoy alot more on the night when it goes well
There are some problems. I know all my records by heart but I'm not playing records anymore. I'm playing CDs. Raves always have shitty turntable setups and I've given up on them (plus I play many of my own productions, promos and digi releases).
You need to have some idea of what's gonna mix. Tbh, I often play tracks I've only heard once or twice before. As a fairly experienced DJ, that's not a big deal but it becomes a problem when you're trying to do anything interesting.
For example, I like to layer tracks together, so I have to know what works (key/structure/rhythm). There's no way I could pull off 3 deck mixes live if I had never tried them before, so if I'm gonna be doing any of those, I practice them. I've tried freestyling them in the past and it just doesn't work with melodic hardcore (I freestyle with makina though).
I also quick-mix on almost every track so I have to be sure that stuff is gonna work. I don't think it's fair to say planning absolutely nothing is the best way to go. I still think figuring out "pairs" of tracks that work off each other is the best way to do it (just harder now that it's not vinyl).
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Jay-Nitro
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Posted - 2009/12/15 : 08:36:21
not sure what the diff is for you playing vinyls or cd's, if you know your choonz then you just know them.
but ok if your going to get technical with your sets then your more than likely to want to do something youve allready tried but still to rehearse a whole set still a no no for me at least, maybe not others.
ive worked allong side some big makina dj's from spain and been lucky enough to be with them in the dj box at pont aeri as a guest while on my hols have seen first hand the randomness those fellas pull out the hat on the dex, theres no way it was rehearsed but i guess they mix BCN style for a living over there, but yeah im sure they are doing some things they have stumbled accorss before with certain choonz that sounds good so they keep it in their armoury.
my days of spending hours locked in my deck room at home furiously mixing away are well behind me, alot of times i get new tracks ill have a skip through at home but the first time i drop a mix with it is probs in a club. . .i can appreciate what your saying about knowing what will go with what but in the main i think you just know. all the years experience and music floating about your head helps you that way. i think in particular with the 'rave' genre be it makina oldskool ukhardcore or whatever, you learn choon structures, so many are so similar, i dont think their all that hard to suss out. but ill admit if your mixing trippy stuff then god you need to know what their going to do and when!
a good example is italian/eurodance from the mid 90's. . . . .its so easy to make a pigs ear of it, synths or vocals dropping on top of each other arrgghhhh! 
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