Future_Shock Advanced Member
Australia
2,483 posts Joined: Apr, 2007
Posted - 2010/04/02 : 03:18:39
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
quote:Originally posted by Bonkers4Life:
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
I take it you lot are just a bunch of Darren Styles fans who are unable to accept what real Hardcore is and what the real meaning of rave is.
just leave man. delete your account and leave.
yer ok I will leave and not bother linking everyone to these Old Skool tapes im putting up? Im not leaving so don't your hopes up.
PLUR
You can't post PLUR. You don't bring peace, you slant everything to do with hardcore past the 90's. Nor do you respect anything. Never do i feel the love from you. And unity would be either you starting to appreciate good modern music (wont happen) or everyone else starting to be obsessed with the 90's (also wont happen)
Bonkers4Life Advanced Member
Canada
972 posts Joined: Apr, 2009
Posted - 2010/04/02 : 03:50:17
quote:Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
quote:Originally posted by Bonkers4Life:
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
I take it you lot are just a bunch of Darren Styles fans who are unable to accept what real Hardcore is and what the real meaning of rave is.
just leave man. delete your account and leave.
yer ok I will leave and not bother linking everyone to these Old Skool tapes im putting up? Im not leaving so don't your hopes up.
PLUR
You can't post PLUR. You don't bring peace, you slant everything to do with hardcore past the 90's. Nor do you respect anything. Never do i feel the love from you. And unity would be either you starting to appreciate good modern music (wont happen) or everyone else starting to be obsessed with the 90's (also wont happen)
Jesus.
schooled. Now shut up and go in a corner and listen to your 90s music alone
Revs Advanced Member
Austria
2,584 posts Joined: Oct, 2008
Posted - 2010/04/02 : 19:23:19
To be honest, I think people like Kathryn have been long enough in the scene to be able to judge and compare this, actually longer than most of you guys have even lived. With the exception of Wilky, yeah we know...
If Smoogie is annoying you, why are you answering? You're worse than the guy himself!
And if you would ever have read what he said, you would know that Smoogie doesn't "hate" everything that was made after 1999 but that he doesn't like the sound that the genre took in 2005-2006, exactly like me and many other members on here.
He is right when saying that Darren Styles is still stuck in 2006, because his tracks have only SLIGHTLY changed since then, they became a bit bouncier maybe, because of the triplets, but if you compare how other artists have varied their sounds and have changed during the time, Darren Styles is DATED!!
The reason why Hardcore had to become commercial was because of the internet, which allowed people to share tracks and downloading them from various sites. Back then, you weren't able to do this, as the tracks were only released on Vinyl and there was no internet.
Silver told me some time ago, that most producers don't even go on the internet anymore because it just hurts them to see their tracks on some filesharing sites when googling them.
I've been talking to legends like Vagabond recently, who have left the scene because of this, and they're all the same opinion. Many artists have secretly quit the scene without people even knowing or noticing it. A shitload of Producers actually! And I'm not talking about old producers, but also recent ones, like Orbit1, Impact, Harry H...
So to conclude: internet is invented -> people start downloading tracks -> producers get less money and can't affoard to produce it anymore -> hardcore has to become commercial to make more money -> and the result ist darren style's clubland shit
That means if you want good tracks again, and if you don't want any other artists to leave anymore, buy your tracks and stop filesharing!
Future_Shock Advanced Member
Australia
2,483 posts Joined: Apr, 2007
Posted - 2010/04/03 : 05:08:40
quote:Originally posted by DJ Revs:
Many artists have secretly quit the scene without people even knowing or noticing it. A shitload of Producers actually! And I'm not talking about old producers, but also recent ones, like Orbit1, Impact, Harry H...
Orbit1 and Impact were HARDLY secret. Impact's case he announced it here. Orbit1 had a HUGE topic about him here too. Harry H? Who's that?
kathryn Advanced Member
United Kingdom
6,520 posts Joined: Apr, 2005
Posted - 2010/04/03 : 11:05:07
quote:Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
quote:Originally posted by DJ Revs:
Many artists have secretly quit the scene without people even knowing or noticing it. A shitload of Producers actually! And I'm not talking about old producers, but also recent ones, like Orbit1, Impact, Harry H...
Orbit1 and Impact were HARDLY secret. Impact's case he announced it here. Orbit1 had a HUGE topic about him here too. Harry H? Who's that?
Smoogie Advanced Member
United Kingdom
6,504 posts Joined: Mar, 2006
Posted - 2010/04/03 : 11:37:47
quote:Originally posted by DJ Revs:
To be honest, I think people like Kathryn have been long enough in the scene to be able to judge and compare this, actually longer than most of you guys have even lived. With the exception of Wilky, yeah we know...
If Smoogie is annoying you, why are you answering? You're worse than the guy himself!
And if you would ever have read what he said, you would know that Smoogie doesn't "hate" everything that was made after 1999 but that he doesn't like the sound that the genre took in 2005-2006, exactly like me and many other members on here.
He is right when saying that Darren Styles is still stuck in 2006, because his tracks have only SLIGHTLY changed since then, they became a bit bouncier maybe, because of the triplets, but if you compare how other artists have varied their sounds and have changed during the time, Darren Styles is DATED!!
The reason why Hardcore had to become commercial was because of the internet, which allowed people to share tracks and downloading them from various sites. Back then, you weren't able to do this, as the tracks were only released on Vinyl and there was no internet.
Silver told me some time ago, that most producers don't even go on the internet anymore because it just hurts them to see their tracks on some filesharing sites when googling them.
I've been talking to legends like Vagabond recently, who have left the scene because of this, and they're all the same opinion. Many artists have secretly quit the scene without people even knowing or noticing it. A shitload of Producers actually! And I'm not talking about old producers, but also recent ones, like Orbit1, Impact, Harry H...
So to conclude: internet is invented -> people start downloading tracks -> producers get less money and can't affoard to produce it anymore -> hardcore has to become commercial to make more money -> and the result ist darren style's clubland shit
That means if you want good tracks again, and if you don't want any other artists to leave anymore, buy your tracks and stop filesharing!
kathryn Advanced Member
United Kingdom
6,520 posts Joined: Apr, 2005
Posted - 2010/04/03 : 12:02:46
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
quote:Originally posted by DJ Revs:
To be honest, I think people like Kathryn have been long enough in the scene to be able to judge and compare this, actually longer than most of you guys have even lived. With the exception of Wilky, yeah we know...
If Smoogie is annoying you, why are you answering? You're worse than the guy himself!
And if you would ever have read what he said, you would know that Smoogie doesn't "hate" everything that was made after 1999 but that he doesn't like the sound that the genre took in 2005-2006, exactly like me and many other members on here.
He is right when saying that Darren Styles is still stuck in 2006, because his tracks have only SLIGHTLY changed since then, they became a bit bouncier maybe, because of the triplets, but if you compare how other artists have varied their sounds and have changed during the time, Darren Styles is DATED!!
The reason why Hardcore had to become commercial was because of the internet, which allowed people to share tracks and downloading them from various sites. Back then, you weren't able to do this, as the tracks were only released on Vinyl and there was no internet.
Silver told me some time ago, that most producers don't even go on the internet anymore because it just hurts them to see their tracks on some filesharing sites when googling them.
I've been talking to legends like Vagabond recently, who have left the scene because of this, and they're all the same opinion. Many artists have secretly quit the scene without people even knowing or noticing it. A shitload of Producers actually! And I'm not talking about old producers, but also recent ones, like Orbit1, Impact, Harry H...
So to conclude: internet is invented -> people start downloading tracks -> producers get less money and can't affoard to produce it anymore -> hardcore has to become commercial to make more money -> and the result ist darren style's clubland shit
That means if you want good tracks again, and if you don't want any other artists to leave anymore, buy your tracks and stop filesharing!
Lilley Advanced Member
Australia
3,740 posts Joined: Jul, 2006
Posted - 2010/04/03 : 12:39:44
Harry H made a (few?) appearnces on crush on hardcore and made quite an impression.
As for Orbit1, I can't see someone who got fed up with illegal downloads in the hardcore genre changing to hardstyle. That's like hating a job then asking for overtime just because you want to be able to hate it more.
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