So after a manor of drunken nights out in 'ye olde Colchester', I took a liking to Kesha and her tracks. So after a bit of research, I decided to remix her track Tik Tok.
Tik Toks not overloved loved by people, but I figured some fans might appreciate this. It wasnt 100% perfect... Its a typical case of spending 2 weeks on a song, then listening to it once its published and only then noticing whats wrong with it... When I feel like it, I might iron it out a bit.
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nicolaslievens Junior Member
France
113 posts Joined: Jan, 2010
Posted - 2010/04/14 : 09:10:11
nice track :)
i'm not a hudge fan of the remixes of people like lady gaga, britney spears etc, especially when it's hardcore remix because don't really like what those girls do.
acidfluxxbass Advanced Member
United Kingdom
5,000 posts Joined: Apr, 2008
Posted - 2010/04/14 : 09:12:18
quote:Originally posted by nicolaslievens:
nice track :)
i'm not a hudge fan of the remixes of people like lady gaga, britney spears etc, especially when it's hardcore remix because don't really like what those girls do.
but i really like your remix !
it's special, different, cool melody, nice breaks
can i use it for my mixes on a radio ?
Thanks for the feedback mate, and yeah sure! When/Where can I tune in? :P
nicolaslievens Junior Member
France
113 posts Joined: Jan, 2010
Posted - 2010/04/14 : 09:47:19
my mixes are every last week of the months on happy'n'core radio and relayed on 4 other radios all around the world, you can have all the informations here: happyncore.com with the time and dates for each radio and mixes :D
catlikethief Average Member
United States
162 posts Joined: Mar, 2010
Posted - 2010/04/14 : 20:03:38
Sounds very Clublandy especially what's going on with the lead + needs more bass.
Not terrible though considering I absolutely hate Tik Tok.
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Jimouk Banned
United Kingdom
317 posts Joined: Apr, 2008
Posted - 2010/04/14 : 21:56:53
I really hate Tik Tok, but I will play this on my show in an upcoming week because it sounds kind of cool. Not sure when though!
Meathead Advanced Member
United Kingdom
4,217 posts Joined: Sep, 2006
Posted - 2010/04/14 : 22:43:15
It's amazing what a devastating effect few nights of drunken student life will have on your taste ;), i actually quite like the original for some reason, i've made my thoughts of commercial tracks remixed into hardcore in the past so won't go down that road. I'll leave the comments about your taste in music and remixes for another time and just talk about the track :p
Well the biggest thing; the vocals. They drift in and out of time throughout the tune. The structure could do with a bit of tidying up too; i wouldn't use the vocals quite the way you have before the first breakdown. Maybe a bit of vocal choppage/FX, but a full verse and pre-chorus before the first breakdown, in what is quite an empty intro, doesn't quite work imo. I'd also introduce the main chorus a bit earlier perhaps in the first breakdown, it's quite a long wait to get to what is the biggest part of the track, which also could be bigger - doesn't have a massive impact when it does come. I don't know what you'd do to build up the suspense and make it "go off" at that point, as i'm poo at structure myself, but i know it needs something. Some oooooomf!
Your tracks are sounding cleaner and clearer lately, but you could do with a bit more EQ'ing to clear things up further. For example the synth playing occasionally during the intro has some low end, that just has no business being there, that could be cut. Also that synth sounds as though it's distorting a bit? Another thing that could help with clearing things up a touch is panning your percussion dude, it all sounds very central and mono to me. What i do - when i can be bothered making owt - is try to emulate a real drum kit; pan my hats slightly right, my crash a little further right, snare ever so slightly right, kick central of course, rides left, tambourines/shakers left or, if i'm using both, one left one right and, if i'm feeling fruity, add some toms and pan them varying degrees to the right/left. Just a thought.
I'm not sure what it is with your tunes but they all have this wet/cold sound, like they were recorded in a bathroom :p only joking they're not that bad but a little more caution with the reverb could be a good idea. When you "master" a track it helps bring out that ambience, so what was a little bit of reverb could turn into St. Paul's Cathedral quite easily. So bear that in mind.
... but... yeah... nice work mate. Your tracks are sounding very good lately. The production overall and track structure are improving, and if it's only taking you 2 weeks to finish a track props to you. Keep it up mate :)
Oh and more pictures of Ke$ha yeah?
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acidfluxxbass Advanced Member
United Kingdom
5,000 posts Joined: Apr, 2008
Posted - 2010/04/15 : 01:10:38
The reason I post the tracks on here is to get feedback and constructive critisism, so what youve posted is a great help, Meathead.
quote:They drift in and out of time throughout the tune. The structure could do with a bit of tidying up too
Ok, so I should base my track around the structure of the original song, so the vocals flow in and out of each other better, rather than twist the vocals to fit my structure?
quote:Maybe a bit of vocal choppage/FX
I hear ya, not always a fan of it, and I'm not too good at doing it right and getting the right formula.
quote: I'd also introduce the main chorus a bit earlier perhaps in the first breakdown, it's quite a long wait to get to what is the biggest part of the track, which also could be bigger - doesn't have a massive impact when it does come.
Okay, not really sure how to make the drop much bigger, but I see what you mean. Normally on tracks the biggest breakdown is the first breakdown. It sometimes takes a good few minutes for the chorus to kick in after the DJ friendly intro.
quote:Your tracks are sounding cleaner and clearer lately, but you could do with a bit more EQ'ing to clear things up further.
Yeah been on the EQ train for a while, and often the leads have too much high but not enough low, so it sounded very hollow. But yeah, I need to learn it properly. I had allot of 3 band limiting to help separate the bands, which helped allot.
quote:Also that synth sounds as though it's distorting a bit?
Yeah think your right. Reason for that is the Q on the Filter is notched up a bit to get a low end sort of filter on the lead. Distortion unintentional but minimal in the main sections.
quote:Another thing that could help with clearing things up a touch is panning your percussion dude, it all sounds very central and mono to me.
Yeah I've always used mono for all percussion. I pan two sets of hats (djkenmasters advice) but they pan at the same amount on each side so you dont notice the difference. Pannings something I'll try more, thanks.
quote:I'm not sure what it is with your tunes but they all have this wet/cold sound, like they were recorded in a bathroom
Still no idea how or why that is.. or what you mean haha. But I trust your wisdom :)
quote:(CLT) Sounds very Clublandy especially what's going on with the lead + needs more bass.
If its Clublandy, wheres me money! and Understood on the bass.
Meathead Advanced Member
United Kingdom
4,217 posts Joined: Sep, 2006
Posted - 2010/04/15 : 17:26:39
quote:Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
The reason I post the tracks on here is to get feedback and constructive critisism, so what youve posted is a great help, Meathead.
Ok, so I should base my track around the structure of the original song, so the vocals flow in and out of each other better, rather than twist the vocals to fit my structure?
Kind of. I dunno, it's your tune do what you want with it but i'd try and use a mixture of both structures - the original and Hardcore remix.
quote:Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
Yeah been on the EQ train for a while, and often the leads have too much high but not enough low, so it sounded very hollow. But yeah, I need to learn it properly. I had allot of 3 band limiting to help separate the bands, which helped allot.
Remember that although a lead may sound hollow it won't be playing alone too much if at all. Same goes for most parts of the track. The best thing to do would EQ them while everything is playing but i've never been very good at that.
quote:Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
Yeah I've always used mono for all percussion. I pan two sets of hats (djkenmasters advice) but they pan at the same amount on each side so you dont notice the difference. Pannings something I'll try more, thanks.
Having two identical parts panned by the same amount to either side will not make a wide, stereo sound, it will infact make a mono sound. Stereo means different signals coming from either speaker, mono means the same signal coming through both speakers - i haven't my dictionary at hand to get the correct definitions but that's pretty much it.
If you double up one sound and pan it equal amounts that means the same sound is coming through both speakers hence making the sum of those sound mono. I discovered this when i recorded a guitar part to use in a track. Instead of recording two different signals and panning both wide left and right i used one doubled up and panned wide either side. This resulted in one narrow, mono sound rather than the wide sound i was going for. Instead you should use one signal and pan it to one side and try to balance the track with a different signal panned to the other side IE Hats - right, Rides - left. Or if you're going for a wide Guitar part like i was just take the time to record two different samples.
quote:Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
Still no idea how or why that is.. or what you mean haha. But I trust your wisdom :)
Me either tbh mate. The reverb thing is just a guess but i'd try going a bit easier or using smaller reverbs and see if it helps.
quote:Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
I'm using giant Sony Stereo Speakers. From Argos :]
Your speakers could be a big problem. Hi-Fi speakers, apparently, have a tendency to boost bass. So what you're hearing through them is not an accurate reflection of what's going on potentially meaning your tracks lack depth in the low end. They also don't have the same range as monitors meaning you could be neglecting the high end of your tracks.
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Meathead Advanced Member
United Kingdom
4,217 posts Joined: Sep, 2006
Posted - 2010/04/15 : 21:58:54
quote:Originally posted by Audio Warfare:
Not bad mate. :) I think meathead has said everything that needs to be said so wont bother saying it all again!
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