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Why do artist produce Hardcore below 170bpm?

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warped_candykid
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Posted - 2010/04/24 :  17:06:10  Show profile Send a private message
I've noticed artist like Adam Harris, Jamie Ritmen, Nu Foundation, Breeze, Darren Styles, and Re-Con make tracks around 168 bpm and it really stinks if you like to play above 180bpm because the bass begins to sound warped.

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Posted - 2010/04/24 :  17:08:16  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage
I find most Hardcore sounds pretty bad above 180, speed wise.



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The non vocal stuff seems to be ok at 180+

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I don't mind the lower speed, I also saw some tracks by Cube::Hard and Darwin at below 170 I think. I even think Cube::Hard's remix of Timebomb is 160-165 or something like that. And then all the Hardscape stuff of course.

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Yeah I like the slower hardcore. Then again I have to mix for people who don't know they like hardcore.

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Brainchild
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I think it's because generally speaking, vocal tracks sound better at a slower speed. Maybe it's also easier to produce tracks when they're slower.



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Posted - 2010/04/25 :  05:02:11  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit latininxtc's homepage
if u want just speed it up it'll probably sound better to you, but not above 180 tho that'll be a huge difference



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quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
if u want just speed it up it'll probably sound better to you, but not above 180 tho that'll be a huge difference



I like happy hardcore and makina since i love hardcore at above 180... but I'm not fond of chipmonk vocals


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choonland
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quote:
Originally posted by warped_candykid:
Why do artist produce Hardcore below 170bpm?


cause they are pussies

now seriously... it is relative, some tracks ask for more bpm, and others ask for less. but in most of the times, speed up a little always increases the energy and the power of the song.

I used to produce from 170-175, but recently I am liking higher speeds, and now 190bpm is my standard

quote:
Originally posted by Brainchild:
vocal tracks sound better at a slower speed. Maybe it's also easier to produce tracks when they're slower."



I think is the other way around, with slower tracks you have more "time" to fill with sounds, therefore it requires more thinking


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Edited by - choonland on 2010/04/26 05:31:42
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quote:
Originally posted by Hard2Get:
I find most Hardcore sounds pretty bad above 180, speed wise.



Agreed.


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Some tunes sound better faster. Imo production standards have dropped in the last few years. Take tunes like Short Circuit - **** me, an old hovver classic. The faster it plays the more ****ed up it sounds. People like Breeze and Styles, Re-con & Adam Harris ect are far from real Hardcore artists. If you think their stuff is 'Hardcore' then check this tune out. This is the tune on it's 'normal' speed. I player it much faster


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I've personally found that when I produce something at 175 bpm or faster I usually have to lower the pitch for that track in my mixes. Therefore I've come to produce stuff a bit slower so as to get a slight "energy boost" when my tracks come in.



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I produce at 175 and play at 180

pitching things by more than 6% makes them sound like shit


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