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NekoShuffle
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Posted - 2010/08/21 :  00:18:53  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit NekoShuffle's homepage  Reply with quote
Personally...without sounding like a bore (because I really do love the names people come up with for genres - look at the songs on the bemani games, some of those genre names are just bizzare) I think genre distinction isn't really what Hardcore needs, we should probably be sticking together and showing how varied hardcore can be as opposed to dividing it. Maybe drum n bass can get away with it with techstep, darkstep, liquid etc. because their scene is much bigger.

Unity! It's the way forward =) and lets be honest, a very, very small portion of hardcore ravers are members of this forum, you can come up with the best name in the world and call it "official" but in the end nobody in the scene will take any notice!

EDIT: And yes, DJ FunDaBounce you are completely right and if I had it my way it'd still be Happy Hardcore! But to cater to the other styles, I think just "hardcore" is fine..! Hardcore punk music and electronic music rarely meet in the middle so the chance of confusion is pretty slim!


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Edited by - NekoShuffle on 2010/08/21 00:24:12
Sam Swift
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Posted - 2010/08/21 :  00:36:29  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Sam Swift's homepage  Reply with quote
Maybe call it NRG, has more energy than any other music genre. lol

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The Doc
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Posted - 2010/08/21 :  00:48:06  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit The Doc's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
Here's how I think styles should be interpreted. To be honest though, I feel that styles merge and overlap too much to class any two or more styles. Here's a few. Feel free to point out your opinions or add your own styles...

PartyCore = a term Orbit1 used. I guess this refers to tracks that mix it up with the idea to sound happy, but maintain the elements of newer hardcore. They tend to have abstract sounds and a slightly more minal feel to them. They tend not have actual melodies or chorus's. Eg: Joey Riot- Party Alarm, Stormtrooper - Phunk'd.

Freeform = The darker stuff. Much more trancier feel. Lacks some of the happy vibes, and has the melody. Long breakdowns and builds up are mandatory ;) Eg: Lost Soul - Love Can Destroy, Transcend - Angel of Darkness

Finergy/FINRG = Renouned free label, but has also define the finnish style of freeform. Less dependand on the happy styles, and more focused on a purposeful dark and mysterious feel. Eg: Carbon Based - Hurricane

Uplifting Hardcore = This for me is the party style, melody based freeform tune. Lacking the seriousness of freeform tunes, it can have a happier melody, more bouncy beat, and euphoric breakdown. Eg: Kevin Energy & AB - Check This Shit Out, S3RL & Kevin Energy - My Transition, Dj Stormtrooper ft MC Knight - Hardcore Raver

Vocal Hardcore = The hardcore tune that is based on male or female vocals. This can vary from Darren Styles style tracks to Dougal and Gammer's vocal stuff with Gemma or w/e. Eg: Darren Styles - Sorry, Gammer & Francis Hill - It Will Be Alright, Technikore - Runaway

Minimal Hardcore = Like it says, minimal. Based on a single note bassline. I dont know much about it, but examples could be... Eg: Dougal & Gammer - Boing, Gammer - Bang Your Head Off





Like I've already said its all Hardcore to me and has been that way for 20 years, different styles and genres, different countries doing different things, they all have one thing in common!


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Edited by - The Doc on 2010/08/21 00:49:29
DJ_FunDaBounce
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Posted - 2010/08/21 :  02:20:09  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ_FunDaBounce's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
Personally...without sounding like a bore (because I really do love the names people come up with for genres - look at the songs on the bemani games, some of those genre names are just bizzare) I think genre distinction isn't really what Hardcore needs, we should probably be sticking together and showing how varied hardcore can be as opposed to dividing it. Maybe drum n bass can get away with it with techstep, darkstep, liquid etc. because their scene is much bigger.

Unity! It's the way forward =) and lets be honest, a very, very small portion of hardcore ravers are members of this forum, you can come up with the best name in the world and call it "official" but in the end nobody in the scene will take any notice!

EDIT: And yes, DJ FunDaBounce you are completely right and if I had it my way it'd still be Happy Hardcore! But to cater to the other styles, I think just "hardcore" is fine..! Hardcore punk music and electronic music rarely meet in the middle so the chance of confusion is pretty slim!




We need not worry much. I'm pretty sure this site and it's main domain name will be around for a while which will surely help keep it that way. :)


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cruelcore1
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Posted - 2010/08/21 :  20:20:43  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit cruelcore1's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sam Swift:
Maybe call it NRG, has more energy than any other music genre. lol



"Ultimate NRG", that's like slower Hardcore with harder kick.


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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2010/08/21 :  20:39:35  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit acidfluxxbass's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by cruelcore1:
quote:
Originally posted by Sam Swift:
Maybe call it NRG, has more energy than any other music genre. lol



"Ultimate NRG", that's like slower Hardcore with harder kick.



Isnt it some apalling commercial album? Donk music init?


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Sam Swift
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Posted - 2010/08/23 :  09:44:01  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Sam Swift's homepage  Reply with quote
Yeah NRG is what donk is called in Australia.
People can come up with as any different names as they like for it. But at the end of the day people in all the other dance scenes will always call it happy hardcore. Really UK Hardcore is just a newer version of happy hardcore.
Hence the name of this website:)


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cruelcore1
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Posted - 2010/08/23 :  22:33:26  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit cruelcore1's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sam Swift:
Yeah NRG is what donk is called in Australia.
People can come up with as any different names as they like for it. But at the end of the day people in all the other dance scenes will always call it happy hardcore. Really UK Hardcore is just a newer version of happy hardcore.
Hence the name of this website:)



Yeah, but most of them dont know what real Happy Hardcore is. As i said in the 1st post xD.


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95_was_the_time
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Posted - 2010/08/24 :  02:34:04  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit 95_was_the_time's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
Here's how I think styles should be interpreted. To be honest though, I feel that styles merge and overlap too much to class any two or more styles. Here's a few. Feel free to point out your opinions or add your own styles...

PartyCore = a term Orbit1 used. I guess this refers to tracks that mix it up with the idea to sound happy, but maintain the elements of newer hardcore. They tend to have abstract sounds and a slightly more minal feel to them. They tend not have actual melodies or chorus's. Eg: Joey Riot- Party Alarm, Stormtrooper - Phunk'd.

Freeform = The darker stuff. Much more trancier feel. Lacks some of the happy vibes, and has the melody. Long breakdowns and builds up are mandatory ;) Eg: Lost Soul - Love Can Destroy, Transcend - Angel of Darkness

Finergy/FINRG = Renouned free label, but has also define the finnish style of freeform. Less dependand on the happy styles, and more focused on a purposeful dark and mysterious feel. Eg: Carbon Based - Hurricane

Uplifting Hardcore = This for me is the party style, melody based freeform tune. Lacking the seriousness of freeform tunes, it can have a happier melody, more bouncy beat, and euphoric breakdown. Eg: Kevin Energy & AB - Check This Shit Out, S3RL & Kevin Energy - My Transition, Dj Stormtrooper ft MC Knight - Hardcore Raver

Vocal Hardcore = The hardcore tune that is based on male or female vocals. This can vary from Darren Styles style tracks to Dougal and Gammer's vocal stuff with Gemma or w/e. Eg: Darren Styles - Sorry, Gammer & Francis Hill - It Will Be Alright, Technikore - Runaway

Minimal Hardcore = Like it says, minimal. Based on a single note bassline. I dont know much about it, but examples could be... Eg: Dougal & Gammer - Boing, Gammer - Bang Your Head Off





and Breakbeat Hardcore


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cruelcore1
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Posted - 2010/08/31 :  23:16:50  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit cruelcore1's homepage  Reply with quote
Mission failed =)

I started calling it Upfront Hardcore, but many people dont know about it and think its gabber.

XD


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