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The Doc
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 Posted - 2010/09/11 : 01:54:02
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Originally posted by Fire Shadow:
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
to be honest Scott should've been more responsible about his drinking and making sure he is ready for his sets. He knew that he had a set going and he bailed b/c he had a little too much fun. It's ok for him to have a good time and drink, but he still has been paid to do a set and it is his job to make sure he fulfills what he has promised to HTID, or any other promoter. I know this isn't like working in an office for a major corporation, but everyone should be able to be aware of their job responsibilities
Now having said all that, on the second half it sounds like HTID really became petty about the situation and decided to use the "complaint" incident and the knife "situation" against him on top of his 2 no-shows. Hopefully both parties can come to some understanding and be able to work together again.
Fair point bud. If he comes all the way from LA, like he said, & decides to start a boozing session, being aware of his booking that night & then on a damn boat the next day!, he should act in a more professional manner. You can't blame jetlag on missing a booking the following day if your in the mood to get slaughtered the night before.
I'm not taking sides here, i'm just very interested in hearing other opinions on the situation....
there is no bigger fan of scott brown in the world than me, but that is a big load of shite! hes a world (not Uk) pro hardcore DJ, and treated the gig as a holiday! I don't blame htid at all, no wonder ties are being lost to him!
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2010/09/11 : 02:32:28
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
to be honest Scott should've been more responsible about his drinking and making sure he is ready for his sets. He knew that he had a set going and he bailed b/c he had a little too much fun. It's ok for him to have a good time and drink, but he still has been paid to do a set and it is his job to make sure he fulfills what he has promised to HTID, or any other promoter. I know this isn't like working in an office for a major corporation, but everyone should be able to be aware of their job responsibilities
Now having said all that, on the second half it sounds like HTID really became petty about the situation and decided to use the "complaint" incident and the knife "situation" against him on top of his 2 no-shows. Hopefully both parties can come to some understanding and be able to work together again.
after reading his statement a couple more times, i have to change what i said in my last paragraph and am sorry to say that SB brought it upon himself. after the 2 gigs he played at, he stated that he got in very late. could it have been due to even more drinking? that is extremely irresponsible of him. I also think it was foolish of him for not showing up to his second gig just because "there wasn't enough time between the two gigs." i'm sure he knew very well what his timeslots for both of those gigs were beforehand. i don't believe events like these would make up a timeslot less than a couple days, if not weeks, in advance. As a professional, he should have been well-prepared for all his gigs.
@ Spoox. offering a refund may compensate the ravers monetarily, but not their hopes of hearing this man played live. this isn't just any regular weekend local rave. this is in spain. ppl fly from many countries just to see these djs. getting a refund won't satisfy all of his fans. there will be fans that are fine with it, but honestly i can't blame anyone for changing their feelings about SB because of this.
and yes you can have fun at raves still. for those who pay to ATTEND these events. it's SB responsibility to fulfill the needs of ravers, as this is a business and ravers are the customers of these events. i'm not worried that much for SB as he will still be booked for many events. his upcoming project for the 100th release of evo. records and his mp3 releases will be enough for HTID to consider him for 2012
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Posted - 2010/09/11 : 12:13:17
hardcore is more "visible" nowadays than it was in the 90s people have to act accordingly!
also whats in the htid statement isnt anything extra than what was in scotts statement
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Posted - 2010/09/11 : 19:48:14
I think its abit of a joke,okay scott missed 2 of his gigs for over indulging abit on the booze but he got someone to cover for him plus i think we've all drunk abit 2 much before,but in saying that if i was at htid in the sun this year i would of been raging as scott would of been 1 of the people i would want to see most,but then agin you'd of seen him twice already,what is intresting to me though is how much hixxy had to play in this saying he owns and runs htid?
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Sam Swift
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Posted - 2010/09/12 : 00:09:40
To be fair if someone has come to see a headliner let like Scott Brown and then gets someone else it's not good!! Is pretty unprofessional to get too drunk to turn up to a gigg that people have payed to come and see you.
But at the end of the day everyone makes mistakes, nobody is perfect and Scott Brown has a huge following in scene. Has made countless Anthems and stuck with Hardcore through the high and low times. I'm sure he'll be back the following year.
Is probably more of a way of teaching him a lesson to maybe slow down on the drinks next HTID.
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Posted - 2010/09/12 : 03:56:32
it's his job and he should be professional and treat it as such.
He didn't, and he got reprimanded. Seems okay to me.
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Posted - 2010/09/12 : 15:27:52
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I saw it and to be fair ur livin in the past. Scott brown dusnt have a rep these days mainly due to the fact hes done **** all production wise. This story has a lot more too it & smells of HTID throwin their weight about, coz they can... Unfortunate 4 scott brown, HTID run hardcore now and this is probably the final demise of scott brown
OMG! I cant believe this but for once i agree with you Wilky 
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Posted - 2010/09/12 : 19:21:12
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Originally posted by Wilky:
I saw it and to be fair ur livin in the past. Scott brown dusnt have a rep these days mainly due to the fact hes done **** all production wise. This story has a lot more too it & smells of HTID throwin their weight about, coz they can... Unfortunate 4 scott brown, HTID run hardcore now and this is probably the final demise of scott brown
OMG! I cant believe this but for once i agree with you Wilky
tbh so do I, and thats a good summary of the situation.
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Posted - 2010/09/12 : 20:04:11
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Originally posted by kathryn:
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Originally posted by Wilky:
I saw it and to be fair ur livin in the past. Scott brown dusnt have a rep these days mainly due to the fact hes done **** all production wise. This story has a lot more too it & smells of HTID throwin their weight about, coz they can... Unfortunate 4 scott brown, HTID run hardcore now and this is probably the final demise of scott brown
OMG! I cant believe this but for once i agree with you Wilky
tbh so do I, and thats a good summary of the situation.
I think to call this the final demise of Scott Brown might be going a bit far! He's just pieced together 100 remixes of the full Evolution back catalouge with guys like Marc Smith, Joey Riot, Evil Activites, Slipmatt to name a few.
Also the fact that this is his job. He's still a young guy considering. He's got to pay the bills like the rest of us. Just because he might not be at many more HTID events, he's an internationally renowned DJ. Not as if he's going to be short of bookings, is it?
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Wilky
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Posted - 2010/09/12 : 20:26:51
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Originally posted by Fire Shadow:
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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Originally posted by kathryn:
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Originally posted by Wilky:
I saw it and to be fair ur livin in the past. Scott brown dusnt have a rep these days mainly due to the fact hes done **** all production wise. This story has a lot more too it & smells of HTID throwin their weight about, coz they can... Unfortunate 4 scott brown, HTID run hardcore now and this is probably the final demise of scott brown
OMG! I cant believe this but for once i agree with you Wilky
tbh so do I, and thats a good summary of the situation.
I think to call this the final demise of Scott Brown might be going a bit far! He's just pieced together 100 remixes of the full Evolution back catalouge with guys like Marc Smith, Joey Riot, Evil Activites, Slipmatt to name a few.
Also the fact that this is his job. He's still a young guy considering. He's got to pay the bills like the rest of us. Just because he might not be at many more HTID events, he's an internationally renowned DJ. Not as if he's going to be short of bookings, is it?
In a very fickle scene like hardcore then yes i can see scott losing a lot of bookings as HTID are a main player.. Ok maybe in the dutch scene HTID will just get laughed at for having a gay name..
I hope im wrong but HTID are bullies... I cant believe this isnt an ongoin thing thats been goin on for years
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Posted - 2010/09/12 : 22:55:53
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Posted - 2010/09/12 : 23:33:33
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it's his job and he should be professional and treat it as such.
He didn't, and he got reprimanded. Seems okay to me.
This. If you miss work because you drank too much the day before, you get in trouble from the boss. If it's consistent, you get fired. A paid DJ is doing it as a job, so it should be no different for them, whether they are an up and comer or an established DJ, or a builder on a work site, work is work.
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Posted - 2010/09/13 : 02:42:41
You guys make a mountain out of a molehill. This is why hardcore is going in the direction we're all complaining about; it's not about the music, it's about the politics behind the music.
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Posted - 2010/09/13 : 05:31:38
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Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
it's his job and he should be professional and treat it as such.
He didn't, and he got reprimanded. Seems okay to me.
This. If you miss work because you drank too much the day before, you get in trouble from the boss. If it's consistent, you get fired. A paid DJ is doing it as a job, so it should be no different for them, whether they are an up and comer or an established DJ, or a builder on a work site, work is work.
Oh come on, the promoter knows scott brown drinks heavily when he dj's. This isnt mc Donalds
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2010/09/13 : 06:58:31
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Oh come on, the promoter knows scott brown drinks heavily when he dj's. This isnt mc Donalds
when is different story. we're talking about before or the night before
a lot of djs drink during their sets, but most of them are responsible enough not to get too drunk that it'll affect their performance.
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