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Future_Shock
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 Posted - 2010/09/13 : 07:36:48
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
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Originally posted by DarrenJ:
Oh come on, the promoter knows scott brown drinks heavily when he dj's. This isnt mc Donalds
when is different story. we're talking about before or the night before
a lot of djs drink during their sets, but most of them are responsible enough not to get too drunk that it'll affect their performance.
exactly. Being a creative arts industry, certain things are let slide and there is a bit more leniency. But if it gets to the point of affecting your job performance (which is what it is, don't kid yourself) then HTID handled it as any employer would have.
Leniency is one thing.. Giving someone and inch and letting them take a mile, that's another.
As a DJ, how can you be expected to get booked if you dont show up?
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Dain-Ja
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Posted - 2010/09/14 : 14:35:44
As much as I'd like to see Scott at HTID again this year, I've gotta agree with Andy...
Not showing up twice in a week is a bit much. DJing is a job like any other. There's plenty of times I would've rather stayed in bed than mixed at 5am but once you accept a booking you shouldn't back out.
Being sick is a valid justification IMO, but a hangover isn't really...
With that said, I can see how it would be easy to be hungover at HTID in the Sun. I've been there the last two years and it's a blast :)
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Samination
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Posted - 2010/09/14 : 16:17:34
I'd buy him being told off for not playing, but lying about people complaining at the hotel, when it seems like no one actually did. That's just wrong.
"You didn't play your PRE-booked set" nuff said. nothing more needed to be said.
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NekoShuffle
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Posted - 2010/09/14 : 17:12:05
Hahaha has anyone read the HTID post on facebook?? Scott Brown is a crazy scottish bastard and I say that in the nicest way possible, mess with the bull and you get the horns. HTID needn't make a fuss, just be a bit wiser who they book next time around eh?
Who said HTID runs the scene?? That's only true if by 'scene' you mean the more commercial side of hardcore.
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Ken Masters
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Posted - 2010/09/14 : 18:34:50
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Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
Hahaha has anyone read the HTID post on facebook?? Scott Brown is a crazy scottish bastard and I say that in the nicest way possible, mess with the bull and you get the horns. HTID needn't make a fuss, just be a bit wiser who they book next time around eh?
Who said HTID runs the scene?? That's only true if by 'scene' you mean the more commercial side of hardcore.
Can you link me up to this plz mate? Did they actually mention the fact that he's scottish? wtf has that got to do with anything!
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NekoShuffle
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Posted - 2010/09/14 : 19:11:57
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Originally posted by Fire Shadow:
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Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
Hahaha has anyone read the HTID post on facebook?? Scott Brown is a crazy scottish bastard and I say that in the nicest way possible, mess with the bull and you get the horns. HTID needn't make a fuss, just be a bit wiser who they book next time around eh?
Who said HTID runs the scene?? That's only true if by 'scene' you mean the more commercial side of hardcore.
Can you link me up to this plz mate? Did they actually mention the fact that he's scottish? wtf has that got to do with anything!
No that bit's just me being a bit stereotypical, not actually serious about it don't worry :p
http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/note.php?note_id=475674171170
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Ken Masters
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Posted - 2010/09/14 : 20:02:16
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Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
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Originally posted by Fire Shadow:
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Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
Hahaha has anyone read the HTID post on facebook?? Scott Brown is a crazy scottish bastard and I say that in the nicest way possible, mess with the bull and you get the horns. HTID needn't make a fuss, just be a bit wiser who they book next time around eh?
Who said HTID runs the scene?? That's only true if by 'scene' you mean the more commercial side of hardcore.
Can you link me up to this plz mate? Did they actually mention the fact that he's scottish? wtf has that got to do with anything!
No that bit's just me being a bit stereotypical, not actually serious about it don't worry :p
http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/note.php?note_id=475674171170
ahh, I thought u meant that was the statement HTID issued ! I was like, wtf ! lmao
cheers man, will have a look now.....
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Ken Masters
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Posted - 2010/09/14 : 20:19:02
"we cut the band of one raver who poured a drink over someones head" - how gutted would you be to get kicked out for that! lol
It seems like the only thing Scott didnt do was toss the TV off the hotel balcony! It is fair enough though, he's obviously been a bit to much to handle & they can't be arsed with a repeat next year.
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Mortis
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Posted - 2010/09/14 : 22:12:00
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Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/note.php?note_id=475674171170
If all of this is true then you cannot blame HTID in any way. I'd have done the same. You wouldn't escape reprimand if you had failed to turn up for work twice in a matter of days due to being drunk. Just because he's Scott Brown it doesn't mean he's exempt from rules.
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kathryn
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Posted - 2010/09/15 : 16:39:07
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
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Originally posted by DarrenJ:
Oh come on, the promoter knows scott brown drinks heavily when he dj's. This isnt mc Donalds
when is different story. we're talking about before or the night before
a lot of djs drink during their sets, but most of them are responsible enough not to get too drunk that it'll affect their performance.
Can picture it now.
Scot Brown gets the boot by his missus for poor performance and brewers droop 
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Vladel
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Posted - 2010/09/16 : 07:08:43
The man is his own worst enemy! must be like hmmm it's 2006 and i'm possibly the biggest hardcore Dj in the world and i'm on all these CDs and my MP3 store is working pretty well also.....
I'm scottish, this can't happen so what will i do? A four year plan to ruin my career!
I'll let my mp3 site fall to shit so no one can buy the very few tunes i'm going to produce unless they want it on vinyl. If they want it on their ipod **** them because i think it's still 1990.
Next i'll stop doing CDs because i'm far too popular and it's not like the stuff i'm going to make would make it anyway!
I just need one more thing to finish it off tho, hmm i'll start getting too pissed to play for the sets i've been booked for!!
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2010/09/17 : 19:35:13
if you haven't read the fb post of why HTID has decided not to book scott brown for next yr i suggest u do so.
this is SB's response to that post (got this on ush, not sure where they got it from):
I respect the fact that you have at least been honest about your feelings. This was never a public argument and I'm certainly not going to turn it into one. Many of your comments are hearsay or libellous but again, I'm not go...ing into an argument.
I'm not sure what the Global Invoice has to do with any of this. I was asked to hand it in by a certain date, missed it by 1 day. I didn't take an invoice to the party. I've not made an issue about it once.
I'll quickly comment on some of your points.
1) Yes there was damage in the room - we fixed everything and said we'd pay for any damage we may have missed. I haven't heard anything.
2) I wasn't the only one messing around and it's unfair to make me the scapegoat. I am friends with the owners of the Restaurant and was made to feel welcome despite the noise. I did apologise to the family with children, they weren't in my line of sight and didn't know they were behind me.
3) I've pissed off a lot of artists in my time, a lot of artists have pissed me off. Such is life. The ketchup incident was a joke between me and a friend of 15 years.
4) Yes this happened, not the brightest idea. The cd and area was cleaned and is in my bag. The artist concerned doesn't seem to have an issue with me. I apologise to the promoters if any damage was caused.
So you have have an 'airbrushed' opinion of events, take it as you may.
I'm disappointed that so much has been brought to the public, considering the amount of 'shenanigans' that go on at parties with other dj's.
I appreciate the work that goes into the parties and the work you guys do, I never once questioned it or tried to put your work down. If you wish to respond in any way, you know my email. If defaming me online is how you wish to continue, feel free.
I don't really think there's much more to be said on the subject.
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2010/09/17 : 19:36:25
AND here is HTID's response following my previous post! sorry for long posts but this saves you the trouble of going to the direct link where this is taken from:
Nothing in my previous message was libellous or defaming at all.
Damage to hotel room - true. Admitted by you now, but you failed to point it out in your first version of events
The behaviour in the restaurant - true. It should be noted, ho...wever, that a lot of artists use and are 'friends' with the owner and frequent the restaurant every year without incident.
Some of the artists and staff moaning about you, your behaviour and lack of respect - true.
The ketchup incident - true. It may have been with a friend of yours of 15 years but at the time he wasn't in on the joke and was very pissed off. Even though you soon made up with him, at the time he was very upset and annoyed and thought you had stepped way out of line. A joke is when everybody involved finds it funny.
Urinating on a CD - true. As admitted by yourself.
Slapping a DJ around the face in Spain and knocking his sun glasses on the floor - true. This was seen by two members of staff and the DJ himself told us about it.
A libellous statement is when you print or broadcast something that is untrue or false as defined here: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/libel
Defamation is where you damage the good reputation of a person by libel as defined here: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/defamation
HTID want to point out that NOTHING in our statement is or was hearsay, false, libellous or defaming. We left out other things that we didn't hear directly from those involved or witnessed by staff for precisely this reason as we have no interest in spreading false information, but simply want to set out our side of the story and our reasoning. We don't have anything to gain from not booking a particular artist and feel it's important people can see the reasons behind our decisions to substantiate them and show there's not a hidden agenda or any politics going on.
This matter is being put to bed from our point of view and I will be speaking with Scott further via e-mail should he wish to continue the discussion. We never wanted this to become a public argument, however, some of the comments Scott made we felt made out that we were being totally unjustified with actions and we weren't within our rights not to book him.
Hopefully we can work something out and move on from this incident.
Mark Lambert
HTID
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Posted - 2010/09/17 : 19:55:42
This is all shit.
Scott Brown is hardcore deal with it. Since when was a "Hardcore" event wrapped up in cotton wool and governed by a bunch of grannies. Feck off HTID... Scott Brown keep er lit! Party like there is no tomorrow!
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catlikethief
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Posted - 2010/09/17 : 19:59:00
He made Elysium so he automatically wins and the rest of everything ever loses.
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