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Ken Masters
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Posted - 2010/10/10 : 20:49:12
quote: Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
well i'm out.
No offence to luna-c or anything, you're a great producer.
But it seems as though the winner will make the track that most appeals to luna-c's taste rather than the favourite of the general population.
Last time the remix was provided by ionosphere (if i call correctly), the general population voted and if i recall correctly NSR released the winning remix (it may have been someone else). I don't see why the winner can't be signed to your label, luna-c, without you being to sole decision of the winner. Obviously if the general population likes it, it will be a popular remix.
This has turned into a luna-c remix competition as opposed to a hhc.com remix comp.
I asked you guys at the start if anyone was willing to submit a track for everyone to remix & no-one said they did. We were about to speak to Nova about using her vocals again but we've had a comp with her before (so i'm told, I can't recall that) & it would be great to try something different this time.
No offence to Nova as shes a great vocalist but I think with this opportunity with Luna-C arising it would be mad not to get involved. This will benefit everyone & not just the producer whos track wins. I can see where your coming from Andy, it wouldn't strictly be a HHC.com thing but it's not like we can't have another comp thats more HHC.com orientated after this.
I think from a simple post from me trying to get something going this now has the potential to be something special & memorable so for that reason i'm all for it. Get involved Andy. We need guys like yourself taking part.
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2010/10/10 : 20:51:01
I can't see how it could be any more HHC.com orientated, lol :>
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Ken Masters
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Posted - 2010/10/10 : 21:10:41
quote: Originally posted by Hard2Get:
I can't see how it could be any more HHC.com orientated, lol :>
Think its more the fact that none of us will have any input in who wins. None of the non producers can get involved at all. It's strictly a Producers comp so for that reason I can see where hes coming from but on the other hand its an awesome opportunity & I can't wait to get things underway!
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2010/10/10 : 21:13:07
I don't think it really makes any difference either way. At least it makes none to me. I don't really care who judges.
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Ken Masters
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Posted - 2010/10/10 : 21:23:09
quote: Originally posted by Hard2Get:
I don't think it really makes any difference either way. At least it makes none to me. I don't really care who judges.
tbh i'd rather have someone like Luna-C judging. I'm not a huge fan of the whole voting thing anyway. Someone can just go & get all their mates to vote for them. I don't think it merits the work that some people have put in.
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Luna-C
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Posted - 2010/10/10 : 22:21:11
quote: Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
well i'm out.
No offence to luna-c or anything, you're a great producer.
But it seems as though the winner will make the track that most appeals to luna-c's taste rather than the favourite of the general population.
Last time the remix was provided by ionosphere (if i call correctly), the general population voted and if i recall correctly NSR released the winning remix (it may have been someone else). I don't see why the winner can't be signed to your label, luna-c, without you being to sole decision of the winner. Obviously if the general population likes it, it will be a popular remix.
This has turned into a luna-c remix competition as opposed to a hhc.com remix comp.
I actually agree. My intention was to simply offer you guys something fun to remix, but in effect I end up taking over - not what I planned at all. We could do both - I can give you the sample pack, and you guys can vote on a winner. Im down with that. But as far as a "prize" goes, I obviously wont want to put out a track i don't like, so if I don't like the winner you choose it all goes wonky lol.
Perhaps you would be better off organizing your own HH comp, and I can get some samples together and do a separate thing in a few weeks time? Because another thing I thought of - I will have to open the competition to the people on my mailing list as well, otherwise I look like a dick lol. And If I do that, I then have to let people who follow me on soundcloud and twitter...and then it all gets out of hand. Politics prohibits me from telling everyone to join hh.com to get the samples, so I have to move the samples to my website. lol, its all gone wrong!
I sometimes forget that, even tho I consider myself just a raver, I have a whole bunch of responsibilities that I have to balance too. It sucks.
So the best way is probably if you guys do your own comp, and I will do one soon too. Or I can give you some samples to play with, and not judge it, but nothing can happen to the finished tune either, as far as releasing it goes
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Ken Masters
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Posted - 2010/10/10 : 23:56:52
quote: Originally posted by Luna-C:
quote: Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
well i'm out.
No offence to luna-c or anything, you're a great producer.
But it seems as though the winner will make the track that most appeals to luna-c's taste rather than the favourite of the general population.
Last time the remix was provided by ionosphere (if i call correctly), the general population voted and if i recall correctly NSR released the winning remix (it may have been someone else). I don't see why the winner can't be signed to your label, luna-c, without you being to sole decision of the winner. Obviously if the general population likes it, it will be a popular remix.
This has turned into a luna-c remix competition as opposed to a hhc.com remix comp.
I actually agree. My intention was to simply offer you guys something fun to remix, but in effect I end up taking over - not what I planned at all. We could do both - I can give you the sample pack, and you guys can vote on a winner. Im down with that. But as far as a "prize" goes, I obviously wont want to put out a track i don't like, so if I don't like the winner you choose it all goes wonky lol.
Perhaps you would be better off organizing your own HH comp, and I can get some samples together and do a separate thing in a few weeks time? Because another thing I thought of - I will have to open the competition to the people on my mailing list as well, otherwise I look like a dick lol. And If I do that, I then have to let people who follow me on soundcloud and twitter...and then it all gets out of hand. Politics prohibits me from telling everyone to join hh.com to get the samples, so I have to move the samples to my website. lol, its all gone wrong!
I sometimes forget that, even tho I consider myself just a raver, I have a whole bunch of responsibilities that I have to balance too. It sucks.
So the best way is probably if you guys do your own comp, and I will do one soon too. Or I can give you some samples to play with, and not judge it, but nothing can happen to the finished tune either, as far as releasing it goes
We'll get there in the end lol Is there anyway you could plz supply us with a sample pack of one of your back catalouge tracks & we can arrange our own comp mate? Then, when your ready to launch your own comp, you could use a much newer track & have the prize of the track being released. Obviously that winning track would be decided by yourself & for our comp we'll just stick to the voting.
I mean you could still release our winning track if you like it but if so, that would be decided seperate from the comp. I'm just very eager in getting this comp underway & it would be great to use one of your KFA tracks if possible.
What does everyone else think?
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Audio Warfare
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Posted - 2010/10/11 : 09:36:12
Why not just have a general vote and put the results up for that and have a Luna C top 3/5/10 (whatever) too. He could sign his favourite from that if he so wishes? Seems the sensible way to run things. That's pretty much how the first HH.com remix comp worked with Silver signing something.
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Dartford-ravin-crew
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Posted - 2010/10/11 : 11:49:26
How about all the remixes get sent to the owner of the rights Luna-c if he does it or the label, they pick the 10 best then they go up on the site to be voted on by the forum.
This way the rights owner knows they are getting something they like and no one on the site can say that it is rigged.
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Posted - 2010/10/11 : 12:12:22
Just caught up on the activity.
Delighted Luna-c is getting involved and helping, but I can see Influx' side of the story clear as day.
I'm down for whatever... :P
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raverlee
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Posted - 2010/10/11 : 12:44:48
quote: Originally posted by Dartford-ravin-crew:
How about all the remixes get sent to the owner of the rights Luna-c if he does it or the label, they pick the 10 best then they go up on the site to be voted on by the forum.
This way the rights owner knows they are getting something they like and no one on the site can say that it is rigged.
This sounds like a good way of doing it. But either way, i hope this gets up and running. It will be my first comp, and i'm eager to get started :) I can see the downfalls of a public vote, but i can also understand what Luna-c is saying.
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Mortis
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Posted - 2010/10/11 : 12:51:31
It looks to me like having Luna-C (or any one person voting on the winner) is too much of a contentious point. It would be a better plan all round if things continued in the direction they where going before Luna-C's offer.
All we would need as far as a sample pack would really be some vocals. I don't see much of a point in having a midi file for a remix contest and samples are ten a penny these days. Most people would use their own anyway.
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raverlee
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Posted - 2010/10/11 : 12:58:10
Yeah, we need to be able to show what we can do, so having midi files or set samples would be a bit pointless. I agree, that all we really need is some vocals to work from. Wether they be new, original vocals, or older, widely used ones doesn't really matter. Its what we do with them that counts :)
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Ken Masters
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Posted - 2010/10/11 : 13:12:14
quote: Originally posted by Audio Warfare:
Why not just have a general vote and put the results up for that and have a Luna C top 3/5/10 (whatever) too. He could sign his favourite from that if he so wishes? Seems the sensible way to run things. That's pretty much how the first HH.com remix comp worked with Silver signing something.
I agree. This seems like a fair way to do things. This way all members can get involved but also the producers may have the chance to have their track signed with Luna-C.
As for the remix pack, I think it would benefit everyone involved to have a midi included. I know most people prefer to work a remix from the bare vocals but bearing in mind there will be a lot of amateur producers getting involved & i'd like to think this comp will spur people on to have a go at production when before it wouldn't have crossed their mind. So for this reason we need to cater for everyone & a midi will really help people get some sort of structure down.
I don't have a problem with Luna-C judging the top 10 tracks seperately & even looking to sign one if he likes. That way it doesn't have to be the winning track as voted for by HHC.com but the one he feels suits his label best. To also have everyone on here listening & voting really is the best of both worlds : )
Cheers for the feedback everyone. *waits for word on the remix pack from Luna-C*
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2010/10/11 : 13:39:09
quote: Originally posted by Fire Shadow:
quote: Originally posted by Hard2Get:
I don't think it really makes any difference either way. At least it makes none to me. I don't really care who judges.
tbh i'd rather have someone like Luna-C judging. I'm not a huge fan of the whole voting thing anyway. Someone can just go & get all their mates to vote for them. I don't think it merits the work that some people have put in.
Yeahso would i, i meant I'm not bothered that it's not members of this site.
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