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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2010/12/05 :  18:56:38  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit acidfluxxbass's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
It's been done lots already. Sounds absolutely shocking.



could you link me to an example please?


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Posted - 2010/12/05 :  20:53:47  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Triquatra's homepage  Reply with quote
well most of the melodies running in the background of freeform are triplets - i dont see the big deal in making a hardcore track with them...unless he's thinking of somthing else?

i mean pulling a random freeformy track Karaoke Pirates - Baby Baby - has the usual triplet Dah Dah Dah, running all the way through it...


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z121231211
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Posted - 2010/12/05 :  21:57:42  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit z121231211's homepage  Reply with quote
I wonder if he means a section every 24 bars rather than the usual 32 bars. (I don't know much music theory)



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Originally posted by raindancerob:

z12, its pointless, even though you already explained what you meant, he missed it (absolutely no offence rob! you do seem to skip over what people say though! ;))



not at all mate i was just pointing out that hardcore was originally breakbeat not 4/4 which came later.



you missed what he was saying completely then lol.

also technically 4/4 is a time signature most breakbeat is also written in 4/4 if you want to be perdantic, most dance music is to be honest :P
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yeah i know that however most people refer to happy hardcore ie not breakbeat as 4/4 & many people called it 4 beat when it first came out, its just that im used to calling it that thats all.


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Posted - 2010/12/06 :  07:25:29  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Triquatra's homepage  Reply with quote
hense why i said pedantic

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Posted - 2010/12/06 :  08:25:47  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
no, you said perdantic :P

anyways, aren't you guys off topic now?


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Posted - 2010/12/06 :  09:23:32  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Triquatra's homepage  Reply with quote
shush you! i was hoping noone would notice ;)

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Posted - 2010/12/06 :  16:21:26  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
quote:
Originally posted by Hard2Get:
It's been done lots already. Sounds absolutely shocking.



could you link me to an example please?



I don't know any songs of the top of my head but they are definitely out there, it was a recent trend.


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Posted - 2010/12/06 :  16:58:31  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Dain-Ja's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by DjTriquatra:
well most of the melodies running in the background of freeform are triplets - i dont see the big deal in making a hardcore track with them...unless he's thinking of somthing else?

i mean pulling a random freeformy track Karaoke Pirates - Baby Baby - has the usual triplet Dah Dah Dah, running all the way through it...



Err... Triplets= 6/4 time signature, which freeform actually rarely uses.. Unless you mean the lead patterns that do a 1-2-3 arp pattern?


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Posted - 2010/12/06 :  17:02:12  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Triquatra's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Dain-Ja:
Err... Triplets= 6/4 time signature, which freeform actually rarely uses.. Unless you mean the lead patterns that do a 1-2-3 arp pattern?




Err.. indeed, in the background you can hear them parping away with their 123, 123, 123, 123 at least in that track to name one (not sure how you missed that, thought i was quite clear :) )

triplet being three triplet quarter notes in the space of a regular..which is often used in freeform arpeggiator patterns...


i dont know what olly's mate really wants to hear though :S




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Edited by - Triquatra on 2010/12/06 17:23:56
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Posted - 2010/12/06 :  17:34:13  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Dain-Ja's homepage  Reply with quote
Can't listen tote track cause I'm on my phone

That's my point though - triplets = 6/4 time signature

Which means each note is divided in 3 rather than 4

I know what you're referring to, but calling it triplets simply because the melody does a 3 note staircase arp pattern isn't really correct... Cause if you put that same riff on an actual triplets song (like al storm - jumping or styles - sorry) it wouldn't sound r


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Posted - 2010/12/06 :  17:37:13  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Dain-Ja's homepage  Reply with quote
Can't listen tote track cause I'm on my phone

That's my point though - triplets = 6/4 time signature

Which means each note is divided in 3 rather than 4

I know what you're referring to, but calling it triplets simply because the melody does a 3 note staircase arp pattern isn't really correct... Cause if you put that same riff on an actual triplets song (like al storm - jumping or styles - sorry) it wouldn't sound rIght

The drum and bass sequencing of a track in true triplet time signature is different...


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Posted - 2010/12/06 :  18:05:48  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Triquatra's homepage  Reply with quote
its still 3 notes in the space of one regardless of how it was created arp or otherwise..it fits the rule :)

anyway, it doesnt matter as olly's friend isnt around to clarify what he actually wants (going back to the original 2nd point, before this 3rd tangent to the thread was started lol)


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Edited by - Triquatra on 2010/12/06 18:16:08
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quote:
Originally posted by DjTriquatra:
its still 3 notes in the space of one regardless of how it was created arp or otherwise..it fits the rule :)

anyway, it doesnt matter as olly's friend isnt around to clarify what he actually wants (going back to the original 2nd point, before this 3rd tangent to the thread was started lol)



Well, not quite because they're still quantized to a 4/4 grid :p

But yes, this is a futile and pointless debate. I really shouldn't browse this site web I'm on my break :0


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