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number2301
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 Posted - 2002/09/30 : 10:26:43
Having seen some peoples views on drugs on this board, mainly Americans, I was wondering does America have a big problem wiv drugs at raves?
I mean in England they say 90% of people are on drugs and most the people I know are, but we don't have any problems because of it. Or very few anyway.
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kg4
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Posted - 2002/09/30 : 11:45:42
yeah, there are alot of stupid people in america...
Oh man, I hope I didn't brain my damage...
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DjMoNkEyBoY
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Posted - 2002/09/30 : 13:25:47
sent to me by a friend
I came to think about this subject in a strange connection with drugs. Most think that fun is all about drugs. And that's becoming a real tragedy.
Before Zelda II, I went to pick up Amanda. There were a few people at her place and as I came in they examined me and made a judgment about me based on my appearance just as I made a judgment on them based on their appearance. Some were skaters and others were ravers: wearing the forty-inch pants and candy. This dress code was a huge contrast with my untucked white short-sleeved dress shirt and my most comfortable dancing pants: a pair of blue cords. I had no candy or any other type of required rave accessories. My appearance probably weirded them out so the first thing they asked is if I smoked pot, a test to find out if I was OK.
Seemed like a gang initiation where I would have to kill ten people in order to join. Awaiting my answer, they heard me tell them that I smoked-out on occasion. This relaxed the room and blew off the pressure. Following that, Zam, a Persian raver with highlights in her hair and a pierced lip, continued with more questions. Some were about DJ's and music; the rest were more random topics, but as always coming back to drugs. She asked whether I liked rolling. In her mind it was a good test of a true raver. I replied with a no failing her test. "Why not?" "Have you tried it?" "Was it a bad experience?" "Was it laced?" The room was boiling over with questions trying to find out what was wrong with me. Finally she asked:” Well why do you party?"
I was surprised to hear that question from a hardcore raver like her. I felt that of all people, she should understand the reason to party. Was she really one of those that felt that a party was only good for a few hours of rolling? I told them: "I party for the fun, music, and people." They seemed
to approve of my decision. Due to the fact that having fun is the in thing to day. No more sports, or jocks; now it's about going to raves to have "fun with e."
My thoughts on this subject may be wrong, but this is my take. Doing pot when one is sick is one thing, but when it comes to parties must everyone be so fake that they need to fake fun too? Say you're pissed and you hit a bong. Yeah I agree it's all good now but what happens when the high is gone? Fill-up the bong and smoke a little more? What happens when you run out of the dough and can't buy bong water? You're ****ing screwed. Now you smoked your best pot, you spent your last ten on a batch that a crack whore wouldn't smoke, and you are still stuck with the problems that got you smoking pot in the first place. This is an extreme case, but….
In my opinion there are other drugs that are far worse than pot. Most people wouldn't think that E is one of them. Last weekend I went to a great rave. I saw five guys smash their way through the dancers to get up to the stage and just sit there looking as if a real life Zombie just devoured their brains. I later got to talk to them. They were a bunch of have-been-jocks who loaded up on acid and e and went to their first rave feeling like they fit in pretty well. And they did because of all those other pretentious bastards out there. Real ravers don't respect that type. Real ravers know what
parties are all about and how to get fun from the party. These wanna-be-ravers think so because everything is fun when you have E. Therefore they are doing the cool thing, which is fun. However, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought a party was suppose to be fun without e. Is something wrong with me? Am I a freak? I guess fun doesn't matter unless you take something. I may be the crazy rebel, but why would I go to a party if it were not fun without E?
Ravers go to a party to get away from life. They come to a place where they can hang out with those that don't know them and based on that fact, accept them. Why ruin that high by taking E and getting away from the party, getting away from those that accept you. Why become another walking Zombie, touching and playing with anything that moves. I don't mean to lecture, I know plenty of ravers do go to raves for the same reasons that I do. But what of those that only remember the good roll of the night? They don't remember the hot girls and guys they've met, or the great music they heard.
I never meant to sound like a dare officer. In fact it's none of my business what people do to have fun. I just think it would be a tragedy if I were forty not being able to party and dance all night anymore, and be forced to live without the memories of the fun and careless years. Parties are about the fun, the music, and the people. But if you can't remember that, then you might as well not have been there at all. Party hard, have fun, stay cool and remember the vibe
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Brian K
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Posted - 2002/09/30 : 14:38:14
^^
look at the narc! =P
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DJ-SK8
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Posted - 2002/09/30 : 17:03:19
Yes there is a problem with drugs at raves here. infact, just last weekend when i was @ hulla everyone was asking me "Whats wrong whats wrong", and i alway's tell them nothings wrong, and then they ask me if i did anything.
I replied "No", and they say, "Oh i see whats wrong now".
And the thing that piss's me off the most is that it happends @ every hulla that i'm sober @, it's as if ppl feel obligated to do drugs at raves.
My god how long have those mice been living your back fat?!?!?!
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kg4
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Posted - 2002/09/30 : 17:11:46
and then youve got all the thugs comin to parties just to sell...
Oh man, I hope I didn't brain my damage...
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ac slater
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Posted - 2002/09/30 : 21:04:43
personally, i hate drugs. on the other hand, im not going to say that they are wrong. but its a party, what do you expect?
hehe anyway, people on drugs are funny as hell, unless they are ODing, yuck.
ac
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Brian K
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Posted - 2002/10/01 : 03:11:35
^^
ac would rather overdose on pabst =P
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Originally posted by DJ-SK8:
Yes there is a problem with drugs at raves here. infact, just last weekend when i was @ hulla everyone was asking me "Whats wrong whats wrong"
they repeated themselves twice? they must have been on drugs =P
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Soren
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Posted - 2002/10/01 : 07:37:02
A real raver knows what pulse width modulation is! Anything else is up in the air.
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Xenochrome
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Posted - 2002/10/01 : 08:02:36
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ac would rather overdose on pabst
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number2301
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Posted - 2002/10/01 : 09:09:41
Fair points but you gotta remember some people who do take drugs don't go raving just for that! I do plenty of naturals as well as go out taking drugs but its always about the atmosphere the music and the people! We aint all that bad :)
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Funky_14uk
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Posted - 2002/10/01 : 09:13:16
i agree
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mollymush
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Posted - 2002/10/01 : 20:14:35
the US has a big problem with drugs...mainly ecstacy, they have started the "war" on club and rave party drugs....such as tv commercials, billboards all portraying it as deadly and extremely dangerous....
I don't support large scale drug use, especially at parties...they are illlegal enough as it is, no need to add some drugs in there. But I do think the government spends to much time and money on eliminating ecstcy....especially when there is a lot of other shit to worry about.
Oh, and drugged up party kids do amuse me. ;)
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Skeenip
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Posted - 2002/10/01 : 21:13:16
Very valid points raised up there. Raves aren't a F***ing hole just for people to get all smacked up and go "weee i'm a raver", infact that story has been told of many times before and is becoming even more frequent. A good friend of mine once said to me "ecstacy isn't what the scene is about, but it can enhance your experience of it". If you go for the right reasons whether or not you do drugs then hooray one more for the scene, if you come just to get wasted please go the f**k away.
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Don Giovanni
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Posted - 2002/10/01 : 22:40:15
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Originally posted by Skeenip:
If you go for the right reasons whether or not you do drugs then hooray one more for the scene, if you come just to get wasted please go the f**k away.
*Nods*
Unfortunately this is one of the problems the rave scene faces today and has faced for a while...when raving became the trendy thing to do the media focused on nothing but drugs.
As result loads of goobers heard about how raves were free and open places, and decided to take advantage of that and said 'Hey lets be cool and go do E'
I find that whenever I go to the more large scale events I see more of these people. Tthe ones which u can tell don’t give a damn about the music and just there to get messed out of their mind.
Sad part is a lot of the people (non-ravers) I talk to who are REALLY into electronic MUSIC are afraid to go raving, because they aren't into drugs.
So what can WE do about this...well those people that come to just get messed...eventually they get board and go away. BUT what about those who love the music and are afraid come see for themselves what it is like. Talk to them, tell them about all the positives of the scene how much fun and happiness the rave scene has brought u. When ever there is a party I always try to bring one new person (who is into electronic music) along with me. True music lovers are what this scene needs to heal and grow.
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Foxy
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Posted - 2002/10/02 : 02:48:30
We have the same problem in the UK, I walked through the city centre yesterday & overheard two lads saying they didnt know how much new years eve rave tickets were, I told them & started to talk to them asking if they liked Drum n Bass or hardcore, they looked confused said they liked hardcore but only really Vibes, so I said he'll only be doing old skool if he's there, they then said they didnt know what old skool was & if I wanted any pills, they'd sort me out!
I take E & I take to enhance the expereince for many E is the experience, thats the problem.
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