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Hard2Get
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 Posted - 2011/04/07 : 19:16:28
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Because of the confusion with minimal house, tech house and minimal techno and all it's ****ing derivatives, i just call it hard dance.
It doesn't matter what you tell people out of the scene because they wont know what you're talking about anyway.
Yeah exactly the same. I just say electronic music though because it really makes no difference what i say, and i just want to get the question over with lol. If they listen to anything electronic then they will ask further.
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2011/04/07 : 23:01:03
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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Because of the confusion with minimal house, tech house and minimal techno and all it's ****ing derivatives, i just call it hard dance.
It doesn't matter what you tell people out of the scene because they wont know what you're talking about anyway.
Yeah exactly the same. I just say electronic music though because it really makes no difference what i say, and i just want to get the question over with lol. If they listen to anything electronic then they will ask further.
haha u know that is true. the best and easiest answer to give, as anything more specific than that will get a confused and bewildered look, and then more questions and you'll end up explaining the whole differences and shit like that to someone who in 5 mins won't even remember any of it b/c they really don't give that much shit about electronic music
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warped_candykid
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Posted - 2011/04/08 : 15:55:12
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
First of all, Techno is an actual genre so it's wrong to refer to anything that is not Techno Techno so yes calling Hardcore Techno is incorrect. 'Happy' Hardcore refers to pre 2000 Hardcore pretty much. The difference in sounds is self evident. Modern Hardcore is anything but happy.
There's some pretty happy tracks coming out today. Hardcore Techno refers to a genre of Techno...not Hardcore (I don't even think there is a Hardcore style of Techno...I know there is a Hard Techno style.) It would make more sense if you were to say "Techno Hardcore", because you're at least implying the style of Hardcore you are listening to is electronic, not people playing in a band. I still call today's stuff "Happy Hardcore", and if people ask what I listen to, I say "Happy Hardcore", or "Electronic Hardcore".
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Samination
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Posted - 2011/04/08 : 16:14:02
this thread needs only one more word...
... lolwut
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warped_candykid
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Posted - 2011/04/09 : 02:07:52
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Originally posted by Samination:
this thread needs only one more word...
... lolwut
You were exactly right! And thank you for adding it!
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Dain-Ja
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Posted - 2011/04/09 : 18:52:42
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
@ quicksilver electronica has for almost 2 decades (at least in the US) been the word to use to categorize all electronic music genres (house, dnb, hardcore, techno, etc). you're right in that electronica does not describe a specific genre, but using house or techno to describe all of the electronic genres out there makes less sense
and revs your post is just fail on so many levels. so what if that's what it says on wikipedia? they require a source to quote what you're writing, but they don't really require a legitimate source for most of their things
Hardcore techno is gabber and had absolutely nothing to do with HHC/UK hardcore
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The Dopeman
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Posted - 2011/04/09 : 20:52:11
can i just say...who cares what style it is...it's music at the end of the day...there are so many genres n sub genres now it's getting a tad confusing to know which is which  can anyone list how many genres there are n how many sub genres there are to each of em
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Warnman
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Posted - 2011/04/09 : 21:11:02
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Originally posted by Dain-Ja:
Hardcore techno is gabber and had absolutely nothing to do with HHC/UK hardcore
And when Gabba producers in Netherlands and Germany replaced the darker melodies with happy tunes, HHC was born.
I understood that the U. K. came to HHC by the developements of old UK Hardcore/Jungle.
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frozt
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Posted - 2011/04/09 : 21:20:22
this whole thread is full of contradictions. just read wikipedia its all correct
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The Dopeman
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Posted - 2011/04/09 : 21:29:26
from what i've learned hhc was breakbeat influenced originally but due to the popularity of the harder style in scotland and europe producers in england started using less breakbeats in their tracks n went with a style similar to what the rest were doing except happier but if u listen to tracks produced towards the end of the 90's it's kinda like whats happening nowadays a lot of the tracks sounded the same...then it died n had to go underground...thats what i think...i could be wrong
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Future_Shock
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Posted - 2011/04/09 : 21:29:34
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Originally posted by frozt:
this whole thread is full of contradictions. just read wikipedia its all correct
lolwut
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frozt
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Posted - 2011/04/10 : 00:56:42
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Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
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Originally posted by frozt:
this whole thread is full of contradictions. just read wikipedia its all correct
lolwut
sarcasmwut
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warped_candykid
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Posted - 2011/04/12 : 18:17:00
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Originally posted by frozt:
this whole thread is full of contradictions. just read wikipedia its all correct
Life is a contradiction.
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frozt
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Posted - 2011/04/13 : 05:11:43
starburst
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NekoShuffle
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Posted - 2011/04/13 : 20:34:39
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Originally posted by frozt:
starburst
I like starburst.
I dunno if I've even posted in this thread, they always seem to crop up. Everyone is different but here's my personal gauge of hardcore:
92-95: hardcore (breakbeat kinda stuff; mike slammer, early demo, slipmatt, SL2 etc.)
96-2002: happy hardcore (vocals, happy melodies, cheese cheese cheese)
2003: hardcore was too dead to generalise I think lol
2004-2008ish?: "UK Hardcore" (uplifting vocals, trancy synths etc. think darren styles, Dougal and Gammer, clubland x-treme 1-4)
2008-present: "Upfront Hardcore" (Harder, darker, hard dance influenced stuff, minimal drops, hefty kicks, "electrocore" stuff
This isn't me presenting the facts, this is just how I gauge it in my mind. Styles have crossed over the different dates and times mentioned (like I'm sure there was some real supercheese in 95 and I bet there were trancey synths before 2004).
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