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whispering
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 Posted - 2011/07/25 : 09:16:31
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Originally posted by DjTriquatra:
the Islam stuff starts at about page 60 and goes on for ages!
If you mean the "Islam 101" it was just a copy/paste from there: http://www.jihadwatch.org/islam-101.html
The "book" actually has a lot of copied stuff.
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2011/07/25 : 10:05:44
it does doesn't it! i noticed there was an article by somebody in our country too (I forget her name).
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whispering
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Posted - 2011/07/30 : 09:21:13
From what I've read (in Finnish news) how the Norwegians have handled the crisis, i can only stand in awe.
You wouldn't believe the shitstorm that has gone through our media. What i learned about the incident in first few days have made me see all the BS the media and government have been spewing. It just goes to show how well fact checking is done these days.
So far the politicians from the ruling parties have said:
-Restrictions on freedom of speech.
-Remove anonymity on Internet forums and the like.
-Make hate speech illegal (Finnish law doesn't know the term and nobody has cared to specify).
-Lower the level where people that do hate speech can be called hate speech, again unspecified (our law is very strict when it comes to slander and criticizing religions BTW).
-Outlaw "far right", whatever that means. But only far right (not far anything else).
-further restrictions on gun laws (last gun laws came into effect like a month ago).
-Plus a huge slander campaign against True Finns, some of their politicians and their voters.
When we got the current government few months back, i said to my mother that if we get another four years of the same shit, i wont be here watching their third term. Now, i think i was too optimistic. Anybody know how easy it is for a draftsman to get a job in say Iceland, Denmark, Korea or Japan?
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TheOneNOnly
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Posted - 2011/07/30 : 16:34:52
So are you saying this is how the Finnish government was reacting to the Norway dealings? Got a little confused there whom you were talking about until you mentioned the True Finns. That's pretty ****ed up though how they are reacting to the whole situation. They're basically taking advantage of the tragedy to impose new laws, which could benefit them, honestly, and to denounce other political parties.
What politicians are willing to do is sickening.
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whispering
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Posted - 2011/07/30 : 17:34:08
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So are you saying this is how the Finnish government was reacting to the Norway dealings?
Yup, its the "reaction" to a tragedy in another country, or as we call it dancing in the graves of the victims. It all started when they found finlands most popular multiculture critics name was on the manifest. It didn't matter that the name was only mentioned in a blog that ABB copy/pasted to hes manifest. Or the fact that there were other Finn's mentioned in it, for example our former president. Later they found out that hes website has a link to Gates of Vienna blog, that ABB liked to read. All very "shocking", but because of this Social Democrats are trying to push him to resign from the post hes currently in (chairman of the Administration Committee) because of these "revelations" hes apparently deemed dangerous. That, on top of all the other stuff i just listed. Sickening indeed.
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TheOneNOnly
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Posted - 2011/07/31 : 05:20:15
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Originally posted by whispering:
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Originally posted by TheOneNOnly:
So are you saying this is how the Finnish government was reacting to the Norway dealings?
Yup, its the "reaction" to a tragedy in another country, or as we call it dancing in the graves of the victims. It all started when they found finlands most popular multiculture critics name was on the manifest. It didn't matter that the name was only mentioned in a blog that ABB copy/pasted to hes manifest. Or the fact that there were other Finn's mentioned in it, for example our former president. Later they found out that hes website has a link to Gates of Vienna blog, that ABB liked to read. All very "shocking", but because of this Social Democrats are trying to push him to resign from the post hes currently in (chairman of the Administration Committee) because of these "revelations" hes apparently deemed dangerous. That, on top of all the other stuff i just listed. Sickening indeed.
So all in all because he copy la pasted something into his manfesto ********, and he liked a blog they link it back to the chairmen to try to make him resign. Even though, with any logic, you can clearly see he didn't have any contact with him but because he read some of it he's obviously a mass murder psychopath too?
Sad, honestly.
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whispering
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Posted - 2011/07/31 : 08:09:33
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Originally posted by TheOneNOnly:
So all in all because he copy la pasted something into his manfesto ********, and he liked a blog they link it back to the chairmen to try to make him resign. Even though, with any logic, you can clearly see he didn't have any contact with him but because he read some of it he's obviously a mass murder psychopath too?
Yes, EDL has had similar treatment in Britain and so have many political groups that are anti or critical to multiculturalism around europe. Its scary how well one psychopath can manipulate the whole media to work for him. ABB said democratic ways don't work, he called the EDL naive fools. He wants people to join him. What would be a better way to get people against the governments of europe, then make the governments outlaw their ideology?
I'm pretty sure after a few months people will calm down and the dust settles, with not much being changed. But the past weeks show how insignificant our fundamental rights are to the politicians.
I envy your constitution and the status it holds.
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Posted - 2011/08/01 : 21:02:53
I feel with you Whispering. It totally is the same here.
If anyone asks me, if I live a democratic country, I'd strongly negate this. Feel free to rewrite your history books: West-Germany was overtaken by the East.
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