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Karthy
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Posted - 2012/01/08 :  04:18:25  Show profile Send a private message  Visit Karthy's homepage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq_HSShmVoY

Right speed, hard kick, catchy vocal line, I've loved this song for so long now!

I always classed it as Hands up until recently, been questioning it

What do you guys think? Also, anyone know of similar music? I'm aware of DJ Splash, Satomi, Mangoo etc, anyone have any more info? They're all such similar artists and they're all quite popular so I'm guessing there MUST be more out there, just havn't heard of any :|


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latininxtc
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Posted - 2012/01/08 :  04:52:27  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit latininxtc's homepage
I would consider it hardcore

Sometimes the speeds of these genres are so close together it's not all too easy to differentiate them.

It actually sounds a bit faster than Joey Riot's Time of My life

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOVS4hagI4E



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Be Happy
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Posted - 2012/01/08 :  06:05:55  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Be Happy's homepage
I've heard that track in a few mixes before. Definitely agree with latin it is pretty hard to tell some of these genres apart.



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Samination
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that's just a typical Cascada (original versions) pitched up. That's not Hardcore. And the Joey Riot (& The Ripper :P) is atleast produced at that speed.

I've considered to mix a few Final Fantasy (the group) tracks into my mixes because they are produced at 170bpm, but that still doesn't make them Hardcore.


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Edited by - Samination on 2012/01/08 06:31:31
don_simon3000
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Posted - 2012/01/08 :  14:27:51  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit don_simon3000's homepage
after listening for 1 or 2 seconds i was like: wtf is this guy asking? ofc thats hardcore. now listening to it for 30 seconds im not so sure anymore.
it has its elements of happy hardcore, but also lacks the piano and the longer/deeper bass.

but all in all its more hardcore than something else and if you define hardcore as some wider range then this track deffo is :)



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DJ-Hutchy
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Posted - 2012/01/08 :  15:06:21  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ-Hutchy's homepage
Not hardcore.



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djDMS
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Speeding up eurodance doesn't automatically make a tune hardcore. But saying that, not a lot to distinguish it from a lot of stuff thats been released as hardcore.

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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2012/01/08 :  21:22:27  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage
quote:
I always classed it as Hands up until recently, been questioning it

You seem to be forgetting that Hardcore is largely Clubland stuff sped up lol.
quote:
that's just a typical Cascada (original versions) pitched up. That's not Hardcore.


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Edited by - Hard2Get on 2012/01/08 21:23:16
cruelcore1
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East Clubbers arent typical Hands Up and their feel is a combo if Eurodance and Hard Trance. Hands Up rarely has that much Trance feel. The track has Hardcore elements indeed but I don't think it was suppose to be HC in the 1st place despite the high original BPM, just some amazing ****ing around.
Whether it's Hardcore or not depends on the different aspects. After all, Hardcore progressed because of alternative. Otherwise only Breakbeat stuff would remain called Hardcore. We shouldn't be so strict.


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Edited by - cruelcore1 on 2012/01/08 23:40:35
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Posted - 2012/01/09 :  09:22:40  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Triquatra's homepage
yeah thats just sped up hands up, call it what you want! :P

The first few tracks on Hixxy's Bonkers 4 mix were german hard trance on 45.
there was a faze back in 00-03 when people were doing "Trance on 45" mixes

basically trance, but on 45, instead of 33 (nobody ventured to 78 though, i guess that was down to the limitations of the 1210s) ;)




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