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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2012/01/18 :  23:57:55  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
No one owes you that music though. There is no way it justifies pirating the music, much less sharing it too.



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Edited by - Hard2Get on 2012/01/18 23:58:17
Shades
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Posted - 2012/01/19 :  00:48:22  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Shades's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
They really can't complain about piracy now



why? the cd's are available worldwide from uk sites



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Posted - 2012/01/19 :  01:11:36  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Dys7's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by whispering:
I once tried buying several albums, from Europe and US. All had Finland blocked. Funny thing is, inside EU its actually illegal. Free trade and all that shit. I actually think its OK to download any album they refuse to sell to you.


So by your logic, itd be okay to pirate World Heavyweight Freeform because they only sold limited copies?


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NekoShuffle
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Posted - 2012/01/19 :  01:14:26  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit NekoShuffle's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dys7:
quote:
Originally posted by whispering:
I once tried buying several albums, from Europe and US. All had Finland blocked. Funny thing is, inside EU its actually illegal. Free trade and all that shit. I actually think its OK to download any album they refuse to sell to you.


So by your logic, itd be okay to pirate World Heavyweight Freeform because they only sold limited copies?




Trading standards aren't the same as internet forum logic, limited stock is limited stock. AATW have an obligation to provide to the entire EU else they are breaking EU laws.


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silver
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Posted - 2012/01/19 :  01:24:32  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit silver's homepage  Reply with quote
Don't quote me on it but their license (at least for some songs) might be for the UK only.



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Posted - 2012/01/19 :  04:39:48  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Bonkers4Life's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dys7:
quote:
Originally posted by whispering:
I once tried buying several albums, from Europe and US. All had Finland blocked. Funny thing is, inside EU its actually illegal. Free trade and all that shit. I actually think its OK to download any album they refuse to sell to you.


So by your logic, itd be okay to pirate World Heavyweight Freeform because they only sold limited copies?




*EDIT*

My post was false.


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Edited by - Bonkers4Life on 2012/01/19 04:44:36
Samination
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Posted - 2012/01/19 :  08:11:49  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dys7:
quote:
Originally posted by whispering:
I once tried buying several albums, from Europe and US. All had Finland blocked. Funny thing is, inside EU its actually illegal. Free trade and all that shit. I actually think its OK to download any album they refuse to sell to you.


So by your logic, itd be okay to pirate World Heavyweight Freeform because they only sold limited copies?




If people who genuiny want the music, I would, If I couldn't ask the artists for the tracks digitally (as it's still their own tracks)

And limited editions are never about money, it's for people who wants a specific/more valued package (compaired to standard edition... which doesn't exist in the THUMPA cases). So I don't understand what Thumpa is thinking. He could easily sold his CD even if he sold these as MP3 later. The Piracy part will still be there, but more people will have the opportunity to actually buy the tracks after the CD's gone, instead of having to resort to piracy. But in the end, if Thumpa only wants to earn money for 250 CDs, that is up to him, but he can't exactly complain if illegal downloads of the same CD's goes to 400.


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Edited by - Samination on 2012/01/19 08:18:14
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvxClpSHV4s&feature=channel_video_title

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NekoShuffle
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Posted - 2012/01/20 :  02:00:31  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit NekoShuffle's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
quote:
Originally posted by Dys7:
quote:
Originally posted by whispering:
I once tried buying several albums, from Europe and US. All had Finland blocked. Funny thing is, inside EU its actually illegal. Free trade and all that shit. I actually think its OK to download any album they refuse to sell to you.


So by your logic, itd be okay to pirate World Heavyweight Freeform because they only sold limited copies?




If people who genuiny want the music, I would, If I couldn't ask the artists for the tracks digitally (as it's still their own tracks)

And limited editions are never about money, it's for people who wants a specific/more valued package (compaired to standard edition... which doesn't exist in the THUMPA cases). So I don't understand what Thumpa is thinking. He could easily sold his CD even if he sold these as MP3 later. The Piracy part will still be there, but more people will have the opportunity to actually buy the tracks after the CD's gone, instead of having to resort to piracy. But in the end, if Thumpa only wants to earn money for 250 CDs, that is up to him, but he can't exactly complain if illegal downloads of the same CD's goes to 400.



I sort of empathise, it's kind of a shame that you can't really make something limited edition in the internet age, but at the end of the day people would be copying tapes or CDs and selling them from cars...you could never stop it, it'd still happen. All you can do is embrace it and look on the bright side that your music is in demand.


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Kebab Head
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Posted - 2012/01/20 :  08:15:09  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Kebab Head's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by silver:
Don't quote me on it but their license (at least for some songs) might be for the UK only.



Or the may be licensing it in future like the albums u did in Japan?


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Posted - 2012/01/20 :  08:23:13  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit silver's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Kebab Head:

Or the may be licensing it in future like the albums u did in Japan?



AATW has an exclusive label license with avex in Japan. All their content, including hardcore is locked up with avex who refuse to release any hardcore music.

But since clubland is a compilation album made from tracks from other labels (not just AATW) they can't just sell in all countries because they might not have a license for it.

Just depends on the deal they made.


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Full_On_Media
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Posted - 2012/01/20 :  12:20:19  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Full_On_Media's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
Good thing I don't like the new Clubland xtreme Hardcore, cause only buyers from UK and IE can buy from TID.


REGION LOCKING

Maybe I should do like Wilky and post illegal d/l links everywhere?



If you do, I assure you immediate legal action will be taken. Thanks.

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Posted - 2012/01/20 :  13:36:29  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit NekoShuffle's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Full_On_Media:
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
Good thing I don't like the new Clubland xtreme Hardcore, cause only buyers from UK and IE can buy from TID.


REGION LOCKING

Maybe I should do like Wilky and post illegal d/l links everywhere?

Thanks.

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DarrenJ
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Posted - 2012/01/20 :  14:53:51  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DarrenJ's homepage  Reply with quote
woah things just got serious

im sure with the megaupload thing in last 24hrs, will be plenty of logs for u to sue JB


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Edited by - DarrenJ on 2012/01/20 15:03:43
NekoShuffle
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Posted - 2012/01/20 :  15:06:25  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit NekoShuffle's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by DarrenJ:
woah things just got serious

im sure with the megaupload thing in last 24hrs, will be plenty of logs for u to sue JB



"We're not in it for the money, we do it for passion. Is...is that someone mentioning pirating? SUE THEM! SUE THEM FOR EVERYTHING THEY HAVE!"


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