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Lilley
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 Posted - 2012/01/22 : 13:29:00
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I'd be more worried about silver banning you.
Keep me up all night, that would.
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Dys7
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Posted - 2012/01/22 : 20:34:14
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Originally posted by Lilley:
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Originally posted by Dys7:
I'd be more worried about silver banning you.
Keep me up all night, that would.
I'm not exactly saying you would care.
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djDMS
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Posted - 2012/01/22 : 20:46:56
But he wouldn't worry if he didn't care.
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Dys7
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Posted - 2012/01/22 : 20:55:11
When I said worry, I meant there was a more likely chance of silver than being sued, not that hed actually be worried.
Now were into semantics. Does it really matter?
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Samination
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Posted - 2012/01/22 : 21:15:49
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Originally posted by Dys7:
When I said worry, I meant there was a more likely chance of silver than being sued, not that hed actually be worried.
Now were into semantics. Does it really matter?
sued on what grounds? Last time I checked, in most countries, it's only illegal to store copyrighted material illegal, not link them to a site that does.
This might be about US law, but still;
http://www.chillingeffects.org/linking/faq.cgi quote:
Answer: Trademark infringement is misuse of another's mark to cause consumer confusion about the source or sponsorship of goods or services. By contrast, many non-confusing uses of trademarks are fair and/or non-infringing. (See Trademark Topic.)
If website uses hyperlinks, like any other content, to mislead viewers into thinking the site is endorsed by someone whose trademark it uses, (e.g., "This page sponsored by MEGACORP, click here for more details"), the website might be found to infringe the trademark. A website merely linking to someone's web page, even if that page and its URL include a trademark (e.g., "We disagree with MEGACORP, click here to visit their homepage"), is unlikely to be trademark infringement.
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Dys7
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Posted - 2012/01/22 : 21:35:08
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Originally posted by Samination:
quote:
Originally posted by Dys7:
When I said worry, I meant there was a more likely chance of silver than being sued, not that hed actually be worried.
Now were into semantics. Does it really matter?
sued on what grounds? Last time I checked, in most countries, it's only illegal to store copyrighted material illegal, not link them to a site that does.
This might be about US law, but still;
http://www.chillingeffects.org/linking/faq.cgi quote:
Answer: Trademark infringement is misuse of another's mark to cause consumer confusion about the source or sponsorship of goods or services. By contrast, many non-confusing uses of trademarks are fair and/or non-infringing. (See Trademark Topic.)
If website uses hyperlinks, like any other content, to mislead viewers into thinking the site is endorsed by someone whose trademark it uses, (e.g., "This page sponsored by MEGACORP, click here for more details"), the website might be found to infringe the trademark. A website merely linking to someone's web page, even if that page and its URL include a trademark (e.g., "We disagree with MEGACORP, click here to visit their homepage"), is unlikely to be trademark infringement.
That's trademark infringement. Infringing on a name, that's like me saying im Wal Mart and selling you something when im not. You can't illegally.download a trademark.
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Samination
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Posted - 2012/01/23 : 04:18:29
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Originally posted by Dys7:
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Originally posted by Samination:
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Originally posted by Dys7:
When I said worry, I meant there was a more likely chance of silver than being sued, not that hed actually be worried.
Now were into semantics. Does it really matter?
sued on what grounds? Last time I checked, in most countries, it's only illegal to store copyrighted material illegal, not link them to a site that does.
This might be about US law, but still;
http://www.chillingeffects.org/linking/faq.cgi quote:
Answer: Trademark infringement is misuse of another's mark to cause consumer confusion about the source or sponsorship of goods or services. By contrast, many non-confusing uses of trademarks are fair and/or non-infringing. (See Trademark Topic.)
If website uses hyperlinks, like any other content, to mislead viewers into thinking the site is endorsed by someone whose trademark it uses, (e.g., "This page sponsored by MEGACORP, click here for more details"), the website might be found to infringe the trademark. A website merely linking to someone's web page, even if that page and its URL include a trademark (e.g., "We disagree with MEGACORP, click here to visit their homepage"), is unlikely to be trademark infringement.
That's trademark infringement. Infringing on a name, that's like me saying im Wal Mart and selling you something when im not. You can't illegally.download a trademark.
well you can illegally download a trademark as much as you can steal a copyright.
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Lilley
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Posted - 2012/01/23 : 05:33:42
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That's trademark infringement. Infringing on a name, that's like me saying im Wal Mart and selling you something when im not.
What the **** are you talking about? Silver wouldn't be able to get sued for having a link on his forum. And more than likely any legal action taken would either have to be under Japanese law, or the law of the home country of the server (could be anywhere). Either way, the greatest action taken would be making him remove the link. It would be me they take legal action against and no country would bother extraditing over one case of copyright infringement.
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GrahamC
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Posted - 2012/01/23 : 08:08:07
I think you will find linking to material to be very very illegal. Google Newzbin & Newzbin2 for the rulings in the UK Court.
The first lot got sued big time and lost. When the site was brought back to life offshore the courts have made BT & Sky block the site and Talk Talk are not far behind
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silver
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Posted - 2012/01/23 : 09:20:01
You need not discuss it because legal or not...
If someone posted a link to any questionable material or even a page containing it would be remove and the user warned / banned because it is against the rules of this site.
We are not taking the heat for stupid people and we believe in supporting the artists, and if you want to do that sort of stuff do it elsewhere, this is not the site for it.
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Lilley
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Posted - 2012/01/23 : 11:41:13
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I think you will find linking to material to be very very illegal. Google Newzbin & Newzbin2 for the rulings in the UK Court.
Did you google it? The two situations are different, quite to the extent that this site would be invulnerable. My point previously is that the country offended against simply would not prosecute me because it's not worth the effort. No, the path taken will be contacting silver as admin and having the link removed.
Either way, my position on the topic can very easily be read in my previous posts to the subjects. I have deconstructed the whole romanticised idea of filesharing both several times and thoroughly
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Samination
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Posted - 2012/01/23 : 15:23:26
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Originally posted by Lilley:
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Originally posted by GrahamC:
I think you will find linking to material to be very very illegal. Google Newzbin & Newzbin2 for the rulings in the UK Court.
Did you google it? The two situations are different, quite to the extent that this site would be invulnerable. My point previously is that the country offended against simply would not prosecute me because it's not worth the effort. No, the path taken will be contacting silver as admin and having the link removed.
That is also what happened. But if they threatened with legal action, that I don't know.
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Either way, my position on the topic can very easily be read in my previous posts to the subjects. I have deconstructed the whole romanticised idea of filesharing both several times and thoroughly
That I definitly know :P
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Edited by - Samination on 2012/01/23 15:24:39 |
Lilley
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Posted - 2012/01/23 : 15:36:08
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That I definitly know :P
Hahaha, I really did laugh out loud at that. It's been a long time since I've been on a rampage the way I would in the days past. Maybe I should find something to provoke me. The days of the good juicy topics seem to have passed.
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Edited by - Lilley on 2012/01/23 15:37:06 |
djDMS
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Posted - 2012/01/23 : 16:16:13
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The days of the good juicy topics seem to have passed.
Luckily, for the rest of us!
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Posted - 2012/01/23 : 20:29:12
I don't like for anything the piracy for real dedicated music but at the same time they limit the ones who have no intentions in doing that. At the end it's not fair for both sides. Oh well :P
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