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Lilark
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 Posted - 2012/01/19 : 20:51:56
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Originally posted by Samination:
good thing I dont aspire to become a DJ then, as I hate playing the same style for a complete set. But if I'd manage to make people listen to more than just one style, maybe I should try more!
I'm exactly opposite, I'd be more comfortable playing the same style.
As for the freeform clearing dance floors, maybe it's just harder to dance too? Not as much bass? Dunno!
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Archefluxx
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Posted - 2012/01/19 : 21:29:11
If freeform is shoved in Room 2 of a hardcore event, it wont attract many people, no. From what Ive heard of events like Munted have been positive.
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_Jay_
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Posted - 2012/01/19 : 22:27:51
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Originally posted by Archefluxx:
If freeform is shoved in Room 2 of a hardcore event, it wont attract many people, no. From what Ive heard of events like Munted have been positive.
You were gonna try make it down to a Munted gig over Christmas, weren't ya?
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2012/01/19 : 22:50:46
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Originally posted by Warnman:
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Originally posted by GregPeaks:
I don't usually post in these forums or discussions but i would like to point out that the freeform sound has a lot to do with the journey each track, and/or mix, creates. I have played at many nights that have been predominantly UK hardcore based and over the years i have found that with the right selection and, correct sequence, of tracks - it is possible to build towards something completely different, without the dancefloor knowing that it crept up on them and this makes for some devastating affects as the new sound is captivating, as any new experience can be. Clearly, freeform is not the same as UK hardcore - "power love songs" or "bouncy dirt tracks" but it is music nonetheless and music that does the same thing that the other tracks are supposed to do. Delivery, in my eyes, has always been a key element in freeform. In this respect, it is possible that if a set is not delivered or built upon in the right way that it will not have the same impact other tracks at a UK hardcore might have.
I don't want to correct you at all, but I barley seperate between Happy Hardcore and Freeform Hardcore. When I was curious about Hardcore in the 90s, some tracks were released as Happy Hardcore, although today you could classify them being Freeform Hardcore. And I feel a very close relationship between both Hardcore styles (twins). The seperation thing is something that came up later on starting with Trancecore. I only use the term "Freeform Hardcore", when I speak to the people, who are into this music very much, because it's making it easier.
They are significantly different though.
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Karthy
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Posted - 2012/01/20 : 01:52:26
Freeform and Vocal UK Hardcore supply me with 2 completely different things. Vocal UK Hardcore gives me goosebumps and happiness, whereas Freeform makes me feel energetic and want to go mental.
The difference between the two probably don't seem like much and they aren't, I'm sure they can be used together to make a nice little effect while you're out there raving on the dancefloor. But generally, I'd pick the feeling of happiness anyday. I'd definately pick UK Hardcore in room 1 over Freeform in Room 2. I certainly wouldn't leave the dancefloor just because Freeform came on. However if Freeform was continously played THAT's when I'd leave, get's very repetitive for me.
Also, one thing that attracts me to a dancefloor is when a tune goes on and you know exactly what tune it is, and you just wanna scream TUNEEEE. I don't know any freeform tracks, or not many anyway, and certainly not well enough to shout TUNE at it...
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Archefluxx
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Posted - 2012/01/20 : 01:53:47
Freeform is a very different subgenre.
It need to stop acting like a sub genre and spread its wings. It could easily stand on its own two feet.
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NekoShuffle
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Posted - 2012/01/20 : 01:56:38
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Originally posted by Archefluxx:
Freeform is a very different subgenre.
It need to stop acting like a sub genre and spread its wings. It could easily stand on its own two feet.
This. Freeform is thankfully becoming "Freeform" and not just "Freeform Hardcore" the diversity is amazing, that's real progression IMO. It's like someone took Hard Dance into space, huge potential.
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Be Happy
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Posted - 2012/01/20 : 02:00:16
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Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
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Originally posted by Archefluxx:
Freeform is a very different subgenre.
It need to stop acting like a sub genre and spread its wings. It could easily stand on its own two feet.
This. Freeform is thankfully becoming "Freeform" and not just "Freeform Hardcore" the diversity is amazing, that's real progression IMO. It's like someone took Hard Dance into space, huge potential.
Agreed freeform could definitely become something of it's own, hopefully this year we'll see it get much bigger.
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NekoShuffle
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Posted - 2012/01/20 : 02:12:44
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Originally posted by Be Happy:
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Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
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Originally posted by Archefluxx:
Freeform is a very different subgenre.
It need to stop acting like a sub genre and spread its wings. It could easily stand on its own two feet.
This. Freeform is thankfully becoming "Freeform" and not just "Freeform Hardcore" the diversity is amazing, that's real progression IMO. It's like someone took Hard Dance into space, huge potential.
Agreed freeform could definitely become something of it's own, hopefully this year we'll see it get much bigger.
It has the polish of commercial club music, the intricacy and complexity of Trance, big UK Hardcore-esque euphoric breakdowns, the pace of rave music - the tracks feel like journey's in themselves and the entire genre itself comes completely from the underground.
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Be Happy
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Posted - 2012/01/20 : 03:31:14
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Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
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Originally posted by Be Happy:
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Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
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Originally posted by Archefluxx:
Freeform is a very different subgenre.
It need to stop acting like a sub genre and spread its wings. It could easily stand on its own two feet.
This. Freeform is thankfully becoming "Freeform" and not just "Freeform Hardcore" the diversity is amazing, that's real progression IMO. It's like someone took Hard Dance into space, huge potential.
Agreed freeform could definitely become something of it's own, hopefully this year we'll see it get much bigger.
It has the polish of commercial club music, the intricacy and complexity of Trance, big UK Hardcore-esque euphoric breakdowns, the pace of rave music - the tracks feel like journey's in themselves and the entire genre itself comes completely from the underground.
That's what's so great about it is the fact that it takes the best elements of all the genres and puts them together but also another thing freeform does well is incorporate acid very well.
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Lilark
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Posted - 2012/01/20 : 03:42:10
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Originally posted by Archefluxx:
Freeform is a very different subgenre.
It need to stop acting like a sub genre and spread its wings. It could easily stand on its own two feet.
I agree, it could be it's own thing if it tried. Then again it's not like Freeform is a bird.
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Samination
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Posted - 2012/01/20 : 08:41:19
Isn't freeform technicially a different genre already?
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Claxton
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Posted - 2012/01/20 : 18:57:35
Surely it's all down to the crowd?
If you're at a major UK Hardcore rave, the crowd will mostly be into their cheesy, vocal lead tracks. So if a freeform DJ comes on in the middle of the night they might not be interested and will use it as an opportunity to sit down or find another room without giving it a chance.
Douglas, A.B and Solution have been booked for the main room at HTID in the sun, so that will be interesting. I will report back to you on the reaction of the ravers ;) .
I for one know that I will be dancing my socks off to it!! Love the stuff!!
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Archefluxx
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Posted - 2012/01/20 : 19:28:57
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Originally posted by Samination:
Isn't freeform technicially a different genre already?
No, it seems to me that Freeform is shackled to Hardcore. Its like it bitch. It has an occassional spot on a Hardcore CD when Hardcore honcho's let it.
Why cant it stand on its own two feet. It needs a pioneer who can draw it away.
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Claxton
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Posted - 2012/01/20 : 19:34:09
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Originally posted by Archefluxx:
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Originally posted by Samination:
Isn't freeform technicially a different genre already?
No, it seems to me that Freeform is shackled to Hardcore. Its like it bitch. It has an occassional spot on a Hardcore CD when Hardcore honcho's let it.
Why cant it stand on its own two feet. It needs a pioneer who can draw it away.
Why doed it need to be independant? It was formed from hardcore and has huge similarities, because it is hardcore.
Freeform is underground music, would it survive on its own without hardcore?? I personally doubt it would.
As someone mentioned previously, UK ravers don't seem to accept variety on the dancefloors. Freeform and hardcore breaks should be standard place in the main rooms of raves along side cheese (in my personal opinion).
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