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The Dopeman Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,393 posts Joined: Aug, 2005
Posted - 2012/06/16 : 18:57:57
i feel dumb for askin like but i can only seem mix old skool stuff properly i managed to mix uk hardcore once on my laptop at a party but since then all ive managed is 2- 3 tracks tops then i swiftly go downhill from there...erm...help???
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raindancerob Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,588 posts Joined: Sep, 2008
Posted - 2012/06/16 : 23:03:47
quote:Originally posted by The Dopeman:
i feel dumb for askin like but i can only seem mix old skool stuff properly i managed to mix uk hardcore once on my laptop at a party but since then all ive managed is 2- 3 tracks tops then i swiftly go downhill from there...erm...help???
if you can mix old skool then UK hardcore should be a breeze
Archefluxx Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,120 posts Joined: Sep, 2011
Posted - 2012/06/17 : 00:33:34
Its not entirely difficult. Once the concept of it clicks, you'll be fine. Key is beat matching, matching the tempo's and moving out of one track and into another nicely. Beat matching is simply getting both the kicks on both tracks matched up. Tempo keeps them matched up. Most UKH is nicely arranged with 8 bars of intro sections. Just to flick the switches as one set of bars finishes and another set start on the other track.
Future_Shock Advanced Member
Australia
2,483 posts Joined: Apr, 2007
Posted - 2012/06/17 : 02:04:14
quote:Originally posted by Archefluxx:
UKH is nicely arranged with 8 bars of intro sections.
er... 16 bars? Come on mate you produce.
Simple UK hardcore revolves around 16 bar phrases. Meaning, every 16 bars something major is added to, taken away, or changed every 16 bars. Learning to count bars is essential. There's 4 beats to a bar in UK hardcore (because it's in 4/4 time).
Essentially with UK hardcore, there is 16 bars in the intro section before a bassline drops. When mixing between tracks the goal is to ensure that there's basically always a bassline there. There's exceptions to this obviously, but that's usually how it goes, same with the outro. A typical hardcore mix might look like this:
Track you're mixing in:
16 bars of percussion/random sounds then the bassline drops with the kick drum.
Track you're mixing out of:
peak section (usually 32 bars) then 16 bars of kick/bass, then 16 bars without bass.
The idea is that the by the time there's no more bassline in the track you're mixing out of, the bassline from the track you're mixing in should be there. UKHardcore is pretty damn formulaic like that. Some have longer intros/outros but the principle is the same.
The Dopeman Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,393 posts Joined: Aug, 2005
Posted - 2012/06/17 : 05:30:39
lol i cant remember writing this wtf?? i remember mixing and halfway thru starting the transision to another track it would skip n go out of time n all wierd figured out its my laptop its on its deathbed i think the only programme thats gonna open now is windows movie maker i don't know whats wrong
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electrogen Average Member
United Kingdom
206 posts Joined: Feb, 2012
Posted - 2012/06/17 : 06:33:57
True DJ-ing/mixing is an artform for those of us who still use turntables. Some can do it some cant. a bit like piccaso, some can paint others cant.
Alert moderatorEdited by - electrogen on 2012/06/17 06:34:40
Ranzor Junior Member
Australia
83 posts Joined: May, 2012
Posted - 2012/06/17 : 06:55:27
I'm a bit lazy to explain everything but I'll let DJ Ravine do that for you:
Even though he's using Virtual DJ to demonstrate, the techniques shown can still be applied to mixing any UK hardcore.
Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,241 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2012/06/17 : 07:06:49
i never use crossfade (-ing effects), since my style of playing is to have the beginning of the track (unless it's way to noisy) hearable. Usually it sounds good, but at some times it will sound horrible :P
I don't know how much using the proper/same basskey does to this formula, but as long as it doesn't clang I guess...
I do this because I don't use headphones. Technically I could use one of my soundcards 5.1 outputs for a headphone, but I like this style.
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Alert moderatorEdited by - Samination on 2012/06/17 07:10:18
Shades Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,189 posts Joined: Dec, 2006
Posted - 2012/06/17 : 09:27:34
cheat & do a studio mix in you're sequencer lol
Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,241 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2012/06/17 : 11:09:01
quote:Originally posted by Archefluxx:
quote:Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
quote:Originally posted by Archefluxx:
UKH is nicely arranged with 8 bars of intro sections.
er... 16 bars? Come on mate you produce.
Who says I produce? I steal music and put my name on it :P
:o What a shocker. You need to headline this DjTriq
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The Dopeman Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,393 posts Joined: Aug, 2005
Posted - 2012/06/17 : 18:23:22
i've been using deckadance it's doing a relly wierd thing now the little line thingy that goes along the waveform it doesnt matter what track is playing when i start to mix the next track it jumps to 1.30 and back and now the record button wnt record i'm going loopy i want to smash my laptop but then that means having to use my desktop to produce and mix which i hate just gonna go buy virtual dj lol god life is fun when your high
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