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Wobler
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United Kingdom
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 Posted - 2012/07/24 : 19:05:30
I'm sure most of you have been listening/playing hardcore since forever, so what I'm interested in knowing is, how would you describe today's hardcore to the last 15 years? Would you say it has grown?
I'm asking this because I've only got back in to listening to it since 96/97 when I couldn't get enough of it back then and I'm totally clueless of the scene since then!
I remember back then when things started changing, Dj's moved on to house music, some Dj's even retired! I found it very depressing! But I decided to move with the times an started getting in to trance, hard house etc and left hardcore behind me. A few years back I was surprised to hear that people still listened to it! Lol
It then gave me the impression that it was just teenagers that listened to it (maybe because of some of the cheesy tunes? I know others that have the same impression!)
That all changed when I seen a YouTube clip of someones mix and that's when i got hooked again! Im enjoying my music more now, than I did listening to other genre's over the past 10 years or so, it's bloody brilliant!
Up until a month ago I hadn't a single hardcore tune, since, I've purchased over 100 tunes in the matter of a few weeks!
Is the scene bigger now than it has been over the past 15 years?
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Warnman
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Posted - 2012/07/24 : 21:13:32
Well, back in the 90's when I was a child I was more focused to to the commercial succesful tracks from the Netherlands and Germany. After I moved to the US for two years back in 1995, I barely had any contact with electronic music until 1997 and I was shocked how dramatically the taste of music had changed when I returened. I quickly got interested by the last Trance wave in the Netherlands and in 2004 I had started to be musically homeless. 2008 DJ Ravine redeveloped my today's passion for "modern" Hardcore and showed me the roots of the U.K., I found the connection to DJ Cotts, HappyHardcore.com and the still existing rave scene.
I really am able to say that this developement has saved my life.
Me personally shares the opinon, that today we are on the way to develope to a new era of rave just like the 90's had been. It still needs some years to develope, but I think we are on a good way.
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Connormgs
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United States
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Posted - 2012/07/25 : 01:41:20
I've only been into hardcore since around 2010 or so (gabber, not happy hardcore), not actively pursuing happy hardcore until around November 2011 to be completely honest but from what I have seen the scene has been slowly climbing back into popularity in places other than the UK/Australia where it has a good bit of popularity. In the mid/late nineties was the peak of its popularity whereas around 2001 it kinda died where not many people were producing happy hardcore at all and from then it's been slowly climbing back into popularity. Despite many old names retiring several good names are gaining their place in the spotlight, correct me if I'm wrong.
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jenks
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 2012/07/25 : 03:23:26
It's definitely grown. I can't think of any EDM genre's that have evolved more to be honest.
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warped_candykid
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Posted - 2012/07/27 : 16:14:53
Well, I got into Happy Hardcore in 2002-ish. My first cds were of course (being an American) the Happy2bHardcore series. Volumes 4, 5, and 6 were my first few albums, so I didn't know Happy Hardcore had been around longer than that until I found Happy2bHardcore vol.1 at a mall and realized it came out in 1996! Also, with being an American, Happy Hardcore is directly related to candy kids, so with my personality and just who I am, I felt like I really found myself in this music and culture. To answer your question, I feel that 2003-2004 were some "dead" years for HHC (well, UK Hardcore, but I still call it Happy Hardcore, get over it), because the music changed from this vocally cheesy sound to deep trance melodies. 2005 showcased a return of the cheesier sounds and female vocals, with Lisa Marie, Alison Wade, and Lisa Abbott leading the vocal front. Next, the scene split off into two directions with Darren Styles & Clubland leading the more "remix commercial chart hits into Hardcore" direction, and Hardcore Underground showcasing the more original artist work. Al Storm kept the cheese alive with his 24/7 label during 2009-ish to present, along with a few others. At 2012, I see the music being so influenced from other genres, it's no longer tied to its 90s, or even 2000-2005 roots. It's a crap hole of sooooo many artist trying to fit what's popular in club world into their music, that they've lost how to add their own imagination into their work (in my opinion). It's a cookie-cutter template now, but I still keep hope that one day, a rougher, happier sound will return to Hardcore.
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rafferty
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Posted - 2012/07/27 : 23:07:59
I do like alot of the tunes at the moment. But Hardcore got alot less experimental and a little over trance cheese in the 2000's. I'd say now Hardcore is in a great state, people seem to be going back to Hardcores roots alot more and getting influences from everywhere.
1995, 1996, 1997 were by far the biggest years for hardcore for me.
You'd go to a rave and the main arena was always dominted by Hardcore and rave events like Rezurection, Fusion, Helter Skelter, Hardcore Heaven were always packed out.
There were heaps of live Hardcore acts then too which you don't get now, like ULTIMATE BUZZ, ULTRA SONIC, CHARLY LOWNOISE & MENTAL THEO, SEQUENTIAL ONE, CASIO BROTHERS, DYEWITNESS.
Many say they were the golden years for the Hardcore rave scene. You go on discogs and more Hardcore was released in those years than any other year.
Here a few links of the best era in Hardcore.
REZERECTION RAVE USED TO GET CROWDS OF IN EXCESS OF 15,000. Most Hardcore promoters could only dream of crowds like this in the UK these days.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQsM3gG0YQA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa5Ug8t7fGUg8t7fGU&feature=related
HARDCORE SET IN AU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HExN02HyP4
HELTER SKELTER Hardcore Techno backroom. PEOPLE DRESSED BETTER BACK THEN.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KAUgQ3ijPE
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Edited by - rafferty on 2012/07/27 23:49:22 |
rafferty
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 2012/07/27 : 23:36:18
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Originally posted by rafferty:
While the Hardcore scene still seems fairly healthy. And I do like alot of the tunes at the moment.
1995, 1996, 1997 were by far the biggest years for hardcore. You'd go to a rave and the main arena was always dominted by Hardcore and rave events like Rezurection, Fusion, Helter Skelter, Hardcore Heaven were always packed out. There were heaps of live Hardcore acts then too which you don't get now, like ULTIMATE BUZZ, ULTRA SONIC, CHARLY LOWNOISE & MENTAL THEO, SEQUENTIAL ONE, CASIO BROTHERS, DYEWITNESS.
Many say they were the golden years for the Hardcore rave scene. You go on discogs and Hardcore was released in those years than any other year.
Here a few links of the best era in Hardcore.
REZERECTION RAVE USED TO GET CROWDS OF IN EXCESS OF 15,000. Most Hardcore promoters could only dream of crowds like this in the UK these days.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQsM3gG0YQA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa5Ug8t7fGUg8t7fGU&feature=related
HARDCORE SET IN AU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HExN02HyP4
HELTER SKELTER HARDCORE TECHNO. PEOPLE DRESSED BETTER AT THIS TIME, ALL THE HIPPIE TYPES HAD LEFT THE SCENE LOL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KAUgQ3ijPE
SOME HOW REPLIED TO MYSELF. HERE IS WHERE I THINK FREEFORM HARDCORE STARTED. FUNNY TO THINK MARK E.G WAS PLAYING FREEFORM WAY BACK IN 1996 BEFORE KEVIN ENERGY AND SHARKEY WERE EVEN PRODUCING IT. PRETTY SURE THEY GOT A LOT OF THEIR INFLUENCE FROM HIM.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52SzE9LYu_w&feature=relmfu
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Edited by - rafferty on 2012/07/28 00:01:51 |
Archefluxx
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Posted - 2012/07/27 : 23:56:14
All about the Funky Breaks International.
Still cant get enough of their records
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rafferty
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Posted - 2012/07/28 : 00:17:23
quote:
Originally posted by Archefluxx:
All about the Funky Breaks International.
Still cant get enough of their records
Yeah I remember that label with dj Quatro I think it was.
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Craigavon raver
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Posted - 2012/08/03 : 15:56:44
Well the 90's was were its at for me, defo better than the hardcore that was produced the last 10 years even though i love that aswwell
And just happened to listen to carl cox live at fantazia the big bang 1993 the other day, and what a set! its actually the first carl cox set i've ever heard and its banging! thats what its all about, mixing english breakbeat with scottish bounce and dutch gabber, pure class! 
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