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DJ Hellfury
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When i take a look on current releases i have the feeling that dark / emotional hardcore is kinda dead since two years.

Today I browsed through some soundcloud pages from popular artists and mostly found clubland'ish, experimental ukh with a few electro / dupstep elements. Even freeform kinda sounds happy or unmotivating nowadays.

The trend seems to be "Happy, Experimental, Uplifting and Party Hard"... but what happend with the other, dark side? Just remember "See you on the other Side" , "Let me In (Darwin Remix)" and "Round & Round (Breeze & Styles Remix)"...
Imo. the last release with emotional, uplifting elements was "Universe" from Darren Styles (even though, i am not a big fan of him since he pushed the clubland sound in the scene).

Maybe i am outdated or i lost essential knowledge about the last two years of releases... but, did i missed any releases, artists or even albums with content as dark as the mentioned tunes or my Shin no Noir sets series (like: http://www.happyhardcore.at/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=2456)?

Please let me know

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Edited by - DJ Hellfury on 2012/09/30 20:24:38
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Spirit Wolf - Grimoir

I'm not 100% sure if it fits your requirements, but it certainly seems dark.




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again not sure if its 100% what you're after...after all I'm not you :P

but I found this one quite emotive
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=b6pKdbktq6c#t=28s


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It's still around you're just not looking hard enough. Hardcore Underground still has some of that style, especially in Fracus & Darwin's Point of No Return album. Also there's always freeform.



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>dark
>Let me In (Darwin Remix)

>happy or unmotivating

>The trend seems to be...Uplifting
>the last release with...uplifting elements was

uh

That aside yeah freeform is probably your best bet. Douglas is a good producer for that, like Jonestown or his remix of See You On The Other Side. And a lot of things Darwin does would probably count too; Magnetised, Hard To Find, Chime, his remix of Skeets - This Moment.

Hell, most of what Petruccio & Modulate are pushing is not exactly "happy" and is sorta dark-ish but still "emotional" sorta kinda. Good example:


This as well:
http://soundcloud.com/petruccio/darren-styles-ft-tyler-open-your-eyes-petruccio-modulate-remix

But yeah, your requirements confuse me.


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quote:
Originally posted by Triquatra:
again not sure if its 100% what you're after...after all I'm not you :P

but I found this one quite emotive
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=b6pKdbktq6c#t=28s




Seconding this (also lol Whizzkid sounds like he lost his voice)

In addition:
http://soundcloud.com/fracus/michael-mansion-under-my
http://soundcloud.com/djgammer/knightinshiningarmour
http://soundcloud.com/clsmstore/clsm-and-maximus-baxter-feat
http://soundcloud.com/djshimamura/rhythmics-my-world-dj
http://soundcloud.com/bassface-recordings/skeets-ft-jeston-langland
http://soundcloud.com/luckybreaksrecordings/off-the-rails-bustin-skampy


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Edited by - MaidenV on 2012/10/01 03:02:12
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quote:
Originally posted by MaidenV:
quote:
Originally posted by Triquatra:
again not sure if its 100% what you're after...after all I'm not you :P

but I found this one quite emotive
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=b6pKdbktq6c#t=28s




Seconding this (also lol Whizzkid sounds like he lost his voice)





That seems to happen pretty often with Whizzkid lol. He performed with no problems Saturday night during HTID In The Sun this year, but apparently the yacht party that sunday afternoon totally wrecked his voice. He could barely be understood that Sunday and Monday night. Meanwhile MC Enemy performed every night (including day parties) and yet he had no voice problem. Same thing with MC Static he was around for most of the event.

Also I know Whizzkid has had a lengthy career in hardcore, but he really should be slaughtered for speaking while Molly is singing!


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so basicly, he's not after dark, but more emotional and sadlike sounding tracks?

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It depends how hard you look in hardcore.

Dig deep enough and you can find all kinds of hardcore.


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Thx for the links and tips you guys posted so far

quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
so basicly, he's not after dark, but more emotional and sadlike sounding tracks?



To be exact, I search emotional and sadlike sounding (mostly vocal) tracks similiar with these:

1) Michael Mansion - Let Me In (Darwin's Hemstock Remix)
2) CLSM & Cube::Hard - See you on the other Side
3) Billy Bunter and Jon Doe - Round and Round (Breeze and Styles remix)
4) Darren Styles - Getting Better (Re-Con Remix)
5) DJ Stompy - Shine
6) The Acolyte feat. Amy - Draw to you (Cube::Hard Remix)
7) Dougal & Gammer - 6th Gate (Dougal & Gammer remix)
8) Kevin energy Vs Dj Proteus - London Helsinki Underground (K-Complex Remix)
9) Flyin' & Sparky Feat. Charm - Down 2 U (Darren Styles Remix)
10) Re-Con - The Sun
11) DJ Fade - Fly with you
12) Aluna - All of my Life (Breeze & Styles Remix)
13) Brisk & Vagabond - The Time has come
14) Plus System - I'll be yours
15) Dee Dee - Forever (Stu Allen Remix)

16) Bass-X Vs. Scott Brown - Pilgrim 2000
17) Frantic & Gammer - Braveheart
18) Gammer - Ambient Angel
19) Supreme & UFO - Trip to the other Side
20) Darren Styles - Dropzone


These tunes have energizing and dark melodies with mostly stunning vocals. And that's what I am really looking for. Each track has an melancholy til apocalyptic mood.

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Originally posted by Archefluxx:
It depends how hard you look in hardcore.



That's the problem: After browsing soundcloud pages from well-known artists (producing darker stuff from time to time like Styles and Darwin) and some topics about upcomming album releases, i found tunes which did not match with the requirements - for example, the mentioned tunes in this topic have slight dark tendencies, but they still sound happy / partyish most of the time; that's the reason why i opened this topic.

I just have the feeling that the scene goes with that "Party Hard ONLY"-trend. That's probably good for my other set series, but it's monotonous on the mood side.

PS:
It is also possible to browse through ALL digital releases... but that is overkill, so i ask the experts here first.
I have to admit that I'm not fimilar with all newcomers (since 2010), labels and subgenres, because I'm more into Psychill and Progressive Trance atm.; maybe there are artists producing the stuff i am currently looking for.



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Edited by - DJ Hellfury on 2012/10/01 07:42:08
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There are some darker tracks on our next complilation:
http://soundcloud.com/watchtowerhq
Lots of clips there not sure if it's the type of sound your after.





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you didnt have Sharkey - Distant Dreams/Skies listed ther ;)
One of the most emotional tracks I know of. a few later Force & Styles comes after (Look at Me Now and Africa)


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quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
you didnt have Sharkey - Distant Dreams/Skies listed ther ;)
One of the most emotional tracks I know of. a few later Force & Styles comes after (Look at Me Now and Africa)



I created the list with the tracklists of SnN I, II and VIII, I knew "Distant Dreams" and used it in Part VII as mashup with "Second Wave" from Scott Brown. But yeah, you got the idea what I am looking for :D

But kudos to you, I found Sharkey - Ascending Angels again through the search for "Distand Dreams". Ty :D

quote:
Originally posted by WTR HQ:
There are some darker tracks on our next complilation:
http://soundcloud.com/watchtowerhq
Lots of clips there not sure if it's the type of sound your after.



"Transcend - Zero-G Fire", "Endemic - Hurricane" and "Aryx - Polaris" got my attention. All of them have kinda dark melodies :)
Someone have to remix "Qygen - Past Blaster" like Darwin or Lost Soul, to make it more catchy, atmospheric and less experimental - great potental tune though.

Ty for linking / posting it, have to follow you on soundcloud ^^


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Edited by - DJ Hellfury on 2012/10/01 13:27:13
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It moved to France.



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SnN?

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quote:
Originally posted by Triquatra:
SnN?



SnN = "Shin no Noir", it's one of my set series, including dark / melancholy tunes. Some sets are still in play on di.fm. I temporally cancelled this set series because i cannot re-use old tunes all the time.

I posted a link to the lastest part in the first post (http://www.happyhardcore.at/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=2456%29)


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