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Is hardcore nearly a dead genre?

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piumaki
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Posted - 2012/10/31 :  11:29:03  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit piumaki's homepage  Reply with quote
I dont know about US but talkin about hc in general here in Italy we re well know for gabber and frenchcore but, there is no Uk/freeform hardcore scene at all. I know only one italian producer (Daniel Seven) and there are no party.

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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2012/10/31 :  12:40:45  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
Italy has always produced quality music. Well at least in the 90's/early 2000's. Notably Hardstyle etc. Not much happy stuff comes from there but when they do it they do it right. Look at Hebagale - I Want Your Mind. Most sought after Hardcore tune ever?

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piumaki
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Posted - 2012/10/31 :  14:40:57  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit piumaki's homepage  Reply with quote
this one?


I didnt know that song! Hard2get u made my day :P


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Edited by - piumaki on 2012/10/31 14:42:06
Samination
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Posted - 2012/10/31 :  14:46:22  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
The producers of that track must be loosign alot of money if collectors can sell it for so much.

But since I've seen Dance Factory release digital stuff for a years now, maybe ppl can get it digitally some day?


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Edited by - Samination on 2012/10/31 14:47:03
piumaki
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Posted - 2012/10/31 :  14:56:08  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit piumaki's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
The producers of that track must be loosign alot of money if collectors can sell it for so much.

But since I've seen Dance Factory release digital stuff for a years now, maybe ppl can get it digitally some day?


Hope so cause

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Smoogie
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Posted - 2012/10/31 :  17:19:28  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Smoogie's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fire Shadow:

The thing is though, dubstep was destined to die eventually. Its not musical enough & there's only so much that can be done to people move on.

Hardcore however is a winning formula & should stand the test of time for a while yet. It might not be the sound that everyone loves but the formula basically stays the same.



Dubstep has started to sound the same really. Im sure they have their usual devide of commercial and underground though


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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2012/10/31 :  18:07:00  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by piumaki:
this one?


I didnt know that song! Hard2get u made my day :P



Yeah that, it's just a shame it is mono there, sounds much better in stereo. And it doesn't matter if it was available digitally as an mp3 is not a vinyl. People want the vinyl. That's what is rare.


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Edited by - Hard2Get on 2012/10/31 18:11:43
Elliott
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Posted - 2012/10/31 :  18:48:04  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Elliott's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gisbo:
look at dubstep for instance given the big shot caned to **** and now it dieing out because people are sick to death of wobble wobble ding dong lol.



And not a moment too soon. When I first heard that wobbly stuff in late 07/early 08 I thought "there's no chance this shit's gonna catch on, it's not even music". In your ****ing face, me from 5 years ago.


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Posted - 2012/10/31 :  19:07:46  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Triquatra's homepage  Reply with quote
it was surfacing with Dougal/Gammers 3000 cycles which was well before late 07!

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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2012/10/31 :  19:36:30  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Smoogie:
quote:
Originally posted by Fire Shadow:

The thing is though, dubstep was destined to die eventually. Its not musical enough & there's only so much that can be done to people move on.

Hardcore however is a winning formula & should stand the test of time for a while yet. It might not be the sound that everyone loves but the formula basically stays the same.



Dubstep has started to sound the same really. Im sure they have their usual devide of commercial and underground though


Started? All the mainstream stuff (everything you will have heard) has always sounded the same lol. That is just a byproduct of a genre being mainstream.


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Elliott
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Posted - 2012/11/01 :  00:14:00  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Elliott's homepage  Reply with quote
I vaguely remember rinsing Skream's Midnight Request Line way back when but it took me a long time to make any connection between that and the shit I heard "brostep" artists putting out in 2007/2008. Didn't even realise they were supposed to be the same genre until ages later!

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Edited by - Elliott on 2012/11/01 00:16:53
Connormgs
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Posted - 2012/11/01 :  14:25:06  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Connormgs's homepage  Reply with quote
Early 00s dubstep is the bomb, whatever this new stuff is is utter garbage. Datsik, Excision and the like better put their money away wisely because people are getting sick of "dubstep" (supposedly at least, this is what I keep hearing but I don't notice anything happening).

People like Digital Mystikz are still putting out the good stuff, just gotta look harder for that good stuff (same with hardcore). Breeze, Petruccio and Modulate need to go away.


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Posted - 2012/11/01 :  20:31:11  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Craigavon raver's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Triquatra:
it was surfacing with Dougal/Gammers 3000 cycles which was well before late 07!



Love that tune!


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Vladel
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Posted - 2012/11/03 :  21:47:58  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Vladel's homepage  Reply with quote
I'm loving Eufeion's remix of sunshine on a cloudy day!!!!

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Smoogie
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Posted - 2012/11/04 :  00:08:40  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Smoogie's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hard2Get:
Italy has always produced quality music. Well at least in the 90's/early 2000's. Notably Hardstyle etc. Not much happy stuff comes from there but when they do it they do it right. Look at Hebagale - I Want Your Mind. Most sought after Hardcore tune ever?



Some of the best Hardcore artists & labels I have known are Italian: Stunned Guys, Miss Groovey, Very Hard and Resistable and as for Happy Hardcore was the tune Happymen - Love is you by Italians as well but just on a Dutch lavel?

Also who can forget The music is moving, classic piano House/Rave/Euro ect


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