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Josephson_Junction
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 Posted - 2012/11/10 : 02:49:51
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Originally posted by Breakbeat Jon:
The whole 'why call it it hardcore, it's not even hard' argument is one of the most stupid things I've ever heard.
That argument has always confused me. What? Hardness on the Mohs scale? Is a hardcore record supposed to be able to scratch corundum or something?
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DJseaking
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Posted - 2012/11/10 : 10:56:27
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Originally posted by djDMS:
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Originally posted by Audio Warfare:
I'm indifferent to it really. Not a track I'd buy but I didn't hate it.
My opinion exactly.
I'm not exactly that far gone, but i think its a remix of a already good track, it didn't ruin the old one, its still good. This one is fine too, when i saw the comments i expected minimal drop, but its the new "electro" bass hardcore,<whatever that means. I personally like the power, reminds me of some of the better tracks off cxh8. imo, this is just fine
whats really bad is that modulate or something remix of a track i cant remember, ruined the song was a drumstep remix or something of styles track, now that was bad
this Darren Styles - Save Me (Modulate Remix) [Exclusive Drumstep Remix]
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_Jay_
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Posted - 2012/11/10 : 11:12:50
lol, that Save Me remix was painful.
That said, I don't subscribe to this "You've ruined the track!" business. I don't feel like that at all. I've got the original. It still exists. It hasn't physically affected that track. It hasn't affected my love for that track.
YES!! Totally unrelated but Slutty & Sluttier #14 just finished downloading as I typed this post. Sweet.
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DJseaking
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Posted - 2012/11/10 : 11:43:08
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Dante
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Posted - 2012/11/10 : 14:53:58
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Originally posted by Breakbeat Jon:
It seems to me, it seems to be 'cool' in certain circles to jump on the whole 'anti electro /dub core' bandwagon purely because it's the new popular thing.
These people are everywhere, most popular case is probably the dubstep/brostep thing. I really hate the name 'brostep' btw. It probably has something to do with the rise of the hipsters, disliking something (almost) entirely because it's popular. And of course, the ones making the most fun of hipsters seem to be the ones acting most like hipsters themselves.
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Samination
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Posted - 2012/11/10 : 16:19:33
i was anti-electro/dubstep until they actually dropped the minimalistic drops. then I started to enjoy them alittle more. but still not enough to buy much of it.
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_Jay_
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Posted - 2012/11/10 : 16:45:18
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Originally posted by Samination:
i was anti-electro/dubstep until they actually dropped the minimalistic drops. then I started to enjoy them alittle more. but still not enough to buy much of it.
Very well put. I'm basically exactly the same.
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Ken Masters
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Posted - 2012/11/10 : 20:19:51
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Originally posted by The Dopeman:
maybe the english will because they don't have a clue what hardcore is simple as that
eh? this is the most idiotic comment i've seen on here in a while. You must have been pissed when you wrote this surely!
Back on topic....I don't really think the melody suits the vocals that well but i've heard a lot worse remixs of classic tracks that's for sure. The over use of the side chain does kill the flow though. The second that's used to drive the track then all other rhythm goes out the window.
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Ken Masters
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Posted - 2012/11/10 : 21:01:16
bottom line is Hardcore will never capture the magic of the 90's. It's just a fact.
There's been some great stuff released throughout 2000+ there's no doubt about it but when you compare the decades it's just night & day.
The passion from the guys in the 90's was very different. These guys we're influenced by so much great music & put that influence & passion into a growing genre that really became something special. The equipment these guys used & the effort they must have gone too just to make something original & unique would have taken so much talent.
Compare that to today, & this covers EDM as a whole, it's far too easy to make it. You'd think that it being easier would make people push the boundaries even more but it's not the case. Everyone seems happy to settle on what "works".
Having said all that, there is some great music still being pushed throught the scene & don't get me wrong, there is still some serious talent out there, guys that go out their way to push the boundaries but as a whole that magic that was the 90's will never return.
Believe it or not i'm really not bitter about this, it's just the way things go. I feel privileged to still be relatively young & have caught enough of the early scene to give it, & the guys that made it the upmost respect.
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DJseaking
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Posted - 2012/11/11 : 00:53:21
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Originally posted by _Jay_:
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Originally posted by Samination:
i was anti-electro/dubstep until they actually dropped the minimalistic drops. then I started to enjoy them alittle more. but still not enough to buy much of it.
Very well put. I'm basically exactly the same.
every once and a while ill hear one that enjoy and the style compliments the rest of the track.
often in stuff by Gammer i find, like this https://soundcloud.com/djgammer/dougal-gammer-orbit-out-now
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Connormgs
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Posted - 2012/11/11 : 01:51:58
To the guy that said Angerfist wouldn't do dubstep:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37k3QIIG_iI&feature=related
Please tell me what that first track he plays is :>
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rafferty
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Posted - 2012/11/12 : 09:14:08
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Originally posted by The Dopeman:
in a few years time people will be saying "who the hell is klubfiller" we have to get rid of these people if hardcore is to survive...it's went on long enough i mean is it any wonder why we havn't heard much from scott brown for a while i don't think he wants his name associated with all of this dubcore/electrocore crap...the man pretty much defined hardcore when it 1st started and when the revival happened now he's doing the smart thing and laying low until this shit goes away...at least i hope he is
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rafferty
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Posted - 2012/11/12 : 09:57:28
I actually really like this track. I really do not understand what all the fuss is about. Like it is a modern production on an older tune. Big deal! What would you rather klubfiller make it sound full of trance strings making it sound identical to the original. Also there is whole new generation of ravers that love the new sounds in hardcore. Let them enjoy it instead of being so narrow minded and jaded. I can also tell you electro will never disappear from hardcore. It is now a permanent subgenre in the hardcore scene like freeform etc.
As for all the trance in hardcore some of you only listen to, like the raverbaby 2000s sound, it was never original or the real sound of hardcore. Is totally influenced from the trance scene. The real hardcore is the stuff slipmatt, seduction, ramos, supreme used to play in the 90s. Probably hardcore taking on influences from guys like avicii, swedish house mafia, tiesto who all play the new trouse sound is the way hardcore will go. Gammer seems to play it as well as recon. Hardcore always has and always will use production techniques from other genres. Also I would love to see some of the haters doing their own remix on the tune. Maybe we could all judge who does it better. I will put my money on klubfiller before you even make a start.
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Samination
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Posted - 2012/11/12 : 12:41:55
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Originally posted by rafferty:
I actually really like this track. I really do not understand what all the fuss is about. Like it is a modern production on an older tune. Big deal! What would you rather klubfiller make it sound full of trance strings making it sound identical to the original. Also there is whole new generation of ravers that love the new sounds in hardcore. Let them enjoy it indead of being so narrow minded and jaded. I can also tell you electro will never disappear from hardcore. It is now a permanent subgenre in the hardcore scene like freeform etc.
As for all the trance in hardcore some of you only listen to, like the raverbaby 2000s sound, it was never original or the real sound of hardcore. Is totally influenced from the trance scene. The real hardcore is the stuff slipmatt, seduction, ramos, supreme used to play in the 90s. Probably hardcore taking on influences from guys like avicii, swedish house mafia, tiesto who all play the new trouse sound is the way hardcore will go. Gammer seems to play it as well as recon. Hardcore always has and always will use production techniques from other genres. Also I would love to see some of the haters doing their own remix on the tune. Maybe we could all judge who does it better. I will put my money on klubfiller before you even make a start.
and get sued in the process? You know how much Scott Brown hate unlicensed remixes
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DJ-Hutchy
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Posted - 2012/11/12 : 14:23:57
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Originally posted by rafferty:
I actually really like this track. I really do not understand what all the fuss is about. Like it is a modern production on an older tune. Big deal! What would you rather klubfiller make it sound full of trance strings making it sound identical to the original. Also there is whole new generation of ravers that love the new sounds in hardcore. Let them enjoy it indead of being so narrow minded and jaded. I can also tell you electro will never disappear from hardcore. It is now a permanent subgenre in the hardcore scene like freeform etc.
As for all the trance in hardcore some of you only listen to, like the raverbaby 2000s sound, it was never original or the real sound of hardcore. Is totally influenced from the trance scene. The real hardcore is the stuff slipmatt, seduction, ramos, supreme used to play in the 90s. Probably hardcore taking on influences from guys like avicii, swedish house mafia, tiesto who all play the new trouse sound is the way hardcore will go. Gammer seems to play it as well as recon. Hardcore always has and always will use production techniques from other genres. Also I would love to see some of the haters doing their own remix on the tune. Maybe we could all judge who does it better. I will put my money on klubfiller before you even make a start.
Finally someone who has moved with the times of Hardcore & ain't stuck in the past or hating the new stuff because it doesn't sound like a Raver baby 2002 tune or this tune sucks because it aint got a 1997 kick drum. Hardcore moves with the times FACT, dont hate if you don't move with it, just enjoy everything that Hardcore gave you when you loved it ;)
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