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AxelPanic Senior Member
United States
285 posts Joined: Apr, 2008
Posted - 2013/01/06 : 07:28:45
Hey guys, I really want some feedback on this track. I'm going to pass this to ya in hopes you guys help me improve. Hoping to be Dj'ing more often.
Dys7 Advanced Member
United States
1,231 posts Joined: Nov, 2011
Posted - 2013/01/06 : 09:26:04
First, always always always always ALWAYS have a tracklist!
It drives everyone crazy when they hear a song they love and can't figure out what it is.
It also makes you look much more professional.
I noticed you're using the default VDJ flanger. There's a much better, 'real' sounding plugin flanger. I've uploaded it for you. http://www.sendspace.com/file/vvppxg I thought your BeatGrid use was pretty good. Don't use it too much - it can take away from songs. Try to use it as an emphasis, rather than a flourish.
Your transitioning needs a lot of work. I noticed you didn't cut the bass frequencies when you went to the next mix - this is very important, otherwise it causes a very muddy transition. When transitioning, cut the bass frequencies, like this -
Then when the song is at the last part of the transition, bring it back up.
Next - Your transitions don't match mixing form.
Start the next song at the beginning of a form, *always*, unless you're doing something especially fancy.
That's these -
It's just plain the correct way to do it, it's what sounds right.
It also sounded like you had your songs keylocked. DON'T DO THAT.
The pitch formula on VDJ is unbelievably horrible. This means if you change the tempo of a song, the pitch will stay the same, but since VDJ isn't good at that, it will make the song sound very weird.
Always turn the Keylock off.
Also, it sounded like you recorded at 128, not 320. 128 is what VDJ records to at default, but if you can, record your mixes at 320. They sound so much better. Hit the little "Config" button above start recording, and click the dropdown box to 320.
I liked the song choice - seems you're a fan of the Acoylte and S3rl :)
It seems to me like you have the basics of VDJ down. Good job! Just needs fine tuning.
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Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,280 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2013/01/06 : 09:37:32
I will take a listen when I get home (now that I saw Dys7 made a huge comment about it).
if needed to, I can post a link to a video I made of how I use VDJ.
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Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,280 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
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Posted - 2013/01/06 : 13:38:22
Ok, so I listened throu the mix, mostly just the transitions, so I havent heard how much you have used beatgrid or other effects.
First off. The first transitions (most tracks before Tsing Tao) sounded very good, no real problems with that. But the track after Tsing tao was a complete mess. I presume you did this as you wanted to hear the vocals from the incoming track. This works well if you don't have tracks that are "noisy" like the one you used. Also you should've cut/stopped Tsing Tao around 18:43 (just when the next track goes quiet). In my opinion Tsing Tao made too much interference at that section to work well there.
Also a comment on what Dys7 said about bass transitions. I'd say it depends on the incoming track. In some cases it can compliment the first track with the added bass, but it can also sound like a complete trainwreck :P
Personally, as you can see from my youtube video below, I don't often use bass transition. Mostly becase my mixer doesn't have a crossfader (only knobs), and I'm usually lucky with the tracks not sounding to horrible.
Also, this is depending on your settings, but some of the transition sounded like it was off-sync, which makes it "clang" a little, but I think it's because your have changed the tempo, but not the pitch. In my opinion, tracks flows better if tempo and pitch follow eachother. If not, you can easily hear the bass occationally sounding distorted (a kick should always sound the same, unless altered).
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AxelPanic Senior Member
United States
285 posts Joined: Apr, 2008
Posted - 2013/01/06 : 20:01:14
Thanks for the comments guys. REALLY BIG HELP! Im going to probably re record and upload a new mix next week. I will practice and get it sounding well!
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Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,280 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
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Posted - 2013/01/08 : 08:57:07
I liked the Space Invader -> Fk I'm Famous transition. Sounded very well. Andromeda -> Electric, not as successful transition as the first ones. You didnt properly beatmatch in the beginning.
at 29:27, you should've killed the first track instantly, because the backspin in the Got Any track usually means one track was "killed".
Haha, you bastard, you hid some tracks from the tracklist. Anyways, I think You're My Angel had to much attention is that crossover.
Did you cut of Building shaker too quickly at the last transition? it would've been better if you let it play out the vocals atleast :P
Other than that, I can't say much. How long have you been trying to mix?
And lastly, where did you get Andromeda by the way?
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Alert moderatorEdited by - Samination on 2013/01/08 09:24:12
AxelPanic Senior Member
United States
285 posts Joined: Apr, 2008
Posted - 2013/01/08 : 18:54:09
Ah, i see what you mean. Should of cut it faster.
I got the track from a friend of mine who is a HHC maniac gave it to me.
I've been passively Djing for about three years. very little. Recently (last 4 months) i've been mixing about 6 hours a day minimum. friend of mine (DJ Kagamine) wants me to join his band of DJ's and play shows.
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Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,280 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
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Posted - 2013/01/08 : 18:58:00
quote:Originally posted by AxelPanic:
Ah, i see what you mean. Should of cut it faster.
I got the track from a friend of mine who is a HHC maniac gave it to me.
I've been passively Djing for about three years. very little. Recently (last 4 months) i've been mixing about 6 hours a day minimum. friend of mine (DJ Kagamine) wants me to join his band of DJ's and play shows.
3 years ago? that was in the middle of my no-mix era :P I barely did a mix between 2008 and 2011.
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Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,280 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2013/01/09 : 07:52:27
quote:Originally posted by carldj90:
Don't forgot DJ Ravine's awesome tut! Its what taught me how to dj 3 years ago!
yea, I don't crossfade the bass/low freqs :P
At times (if the bass is to overpowering in the incoming track) I do Dys7 showed, killing or lowering the bass on the incoming track until I "think" it's safe to start it up again
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Alert moderatorEdited by - Samination on 2013/01/09 07:53:43
wong Advanced Member
United Kingdom
2,992 posts Joined: Feb, 2006
Posted - 2013/01/09 : 12:23:53
quote:Originally posted by carldj90:
Don't forgot DJ Ravine's awesome tut! Its what taught me how to dj 3 years ago!
me toooooo
except 18 months ago not 3 years
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Posted - 2013/01/06 : 07:28:45
