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Spyanova
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 Posted - 2013/02/13 : 03:14:41
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Originally posted by Lorenzo.Tweakn:
Long story short, there's always HU & a bunch of other independent labels still producing the "old" sound.
Thats not the story at all because its completely irrelevant.
I think on a Hardcore CD theres an obligation to play Hardcore. If Breeze insists on playing drumstep mixes insteas of hardcore ones, apply to mix on a drumstep album. I think we're beginning to see him slowly maneuvre out of Hardcore now. Id rather he did it like Ham though. swift and silently.
Hes clearly leaned more toward alower genres and D&B, and i dont think you can force that to another genre when there are pleny of other options for better dubstep and D&B.
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DJ_FunDaBounce
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Posted - 2013/02/13 : 03:31:15
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Originally posted by Lorenzo.Tweakn:
Long story short, there's always HU & a bunch of other independent labels still producing the "old" sound.
wow. old sounding rave music. by all logic it could happen. you'd just never consciously conceive it.
anyhoo, did you guys hear this mix?
http://snd.sc/X3E5Hf
Even though it's a different sound I have to admit the quality, both mixing and programming-wise, is outstanding.
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jimnicricket
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Posted - 2013/02/13 : 03:43:32
Woot a skeets song made iit on ;)
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carldj90
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Posted - 2013/02/13 : 03:45:52
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Originally posted by jimnicricket:
Woot a skeets song made iit on ;)
I was very excited about this is well :) Seattle hardcore FTW!
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Lorenzo.Tweakn
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United States
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Posted - 2013/02/13 : 03:46:23
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Originally posted by Spyanova:
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Originally posted by Lorenzo.Tweakn:
Long story short, there's always HU & a bunch of other independent labels still producing the "old" sound.
Thats not the story at all because its completely irrelevant.
people bitch about 1 ****ing disc not being hardcore continously on & on. who ****ing cares! at the end of the day, it's one disc on one album,
the album being more diverse & having drumstep/drum & bass will attract the more "main stream" audience & speed up the process of the genre expanding. "electro-core" expanded the genre alot which also helped out basically everyone. i expect this whole drumstep/d&b to do the same exact thing. maybe it can even help out a genre like "hardcore breaks" which is the hybrid of d&b n uk hardcore.
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MaidenV
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Posted - 2013/02/13 : 04:02:02
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Originally posted by DJ_FunDaBounce:
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Originally posted by Lorenzo.Tweakn:
Long story short, there's always HU & a bunch of other independent labels still producing the "old" sound.
wow. old sounding rave music. by all logic it could happen. you'd just never consciously conceive it.
anyhoo, did you guys hear this mix?
http://snd.sc/X3E5Hf
Even though it's a different sound I have to admit the quality, both mixing and programming-wise, is outstanding.
Hmm, theres some good tracks in there and its nice to see him at least trying to do some interesting mixing, but overall I'm less positive than I am towards the CXHC preview. The track at 24:50 is a good example of something I don't like at all, 29:49 is an amazing tune and it's annoying me because I know the title but I can't remember it ATM. The edit of Missing towards the end there is much better than the original, but not as good as the Gammer remix. That track The Raver (DS Remix) is really enjoyable despite having really eye-rolling lyrics.
And I still don't like Screwface at all.
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Lorenzo.Tweakn
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Posted - 2013/02/13 : 04:13:28
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Originally posted by DJ_FunDaBounce:
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Originally posted by Lorenzo.Tweakn:
Long story short, there's always HU & a bunch of other independent labels still producing the "old" sound.
wow. old sounding rave music. by all logic it could happen. you'd just never consciously conceive it.
oh fundabounce, thanks for the smart ass comment, :)
i really expect ignorance from a person like you
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Dys7
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Posted - 2013/02/13 : 04:40:38
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Originally posted by warped_candykid:
I'm with Vladel on this one. It's not Hardcore...so it shouldn't be on a cd project geared towards Hardcore music. I really don't get how hard that is to understand. As of matter of fact, I do want my lyrics about dreams, wishes, and love back in my Hardcore music, thank you very much. I'm so tired of the bland emotional crap that's been showered over the music in the past couple of years. Where's the cheese? Where's the happy?
Over at my soundcloud! :D
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Dys7
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Posted - 2013/02/13 : 04:44:55
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Originally posted by Lorenzo.Tweakn:
oh fundabounce, thanks for the smart ass comment, :)
i really expect ignorance from a person like you
Chill out man, you're always the one trying to push PLUR. Where's the love? :(
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DJ Hellfury
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Posted - 2013/02/13 : 04:59:05
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Originally posted by Lorenzo.Tweakn:
the album being more diverse & having drumstep/drum & bass will attract the more "main stream" audience & speed up the process of the genre expanding. "electro-core" expanded the genre alot which also helped out basically everyone. i expect this whole drumstep/d&b to do the same exact thing. maybe it can even help out a genre like "hardcore breaks" which is the hybrid of d&b n uk hardcore.
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will attract the more "main stream" audience
how about NO, not at all?
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Originally posted by Dys7:
Over at my soundcloud! :D
If you combine these:
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Originally posted by Breakbeat Jon:
singing about unicorns, castles in the sky and angels over wishy washy trance leads
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Originally posted by warped_candykid:
I do want my lyrics about dreams, wishes, and love
I buy the track INSTANTLY. Add some Axe Cop and you become epic.
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Vladel
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Posted - 2013/02/13 : 07:11:05
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Originally posted by carldj90:
My point was AATW most likely doesn't know the difference between the genres. Thus the point of creating a whole new compilation CD for Breeze would be a waste of money. If Breeze & Skrillex both came to AATW wanting to work on the same CD, that might be a good investment, because Skrillex is bound to make you money.
I think he's mixing this music because he likes it. You really think he's just playing all this to show off? Why do you have to assume things about Breeze when there a huge fat chance he is enjoying what he is doing. Maybe he's not showing off "decent hardcore" because he hasn't been producing as much hardcore lately? Once you become a known hardcore DJ and you either want to play other genres or change styles of music you better watch out you will make people mad with how you want to do YOUR career! BTW I think the preview is just the actual mix just chopped up so yes, having a D&B drop were a hardcore drop makes sense. I see the preview as being a small clips of the actual mix. (He does not mix like that on Rough Tempo.)
Your are still not getting the point people are trying to make. We are not saying that Breeze cannot change his musical direction or work with skrillex. We are not denying that the preview is a chopped selection from the mix either. He can do whatever he wants as DJ Breeze but he can't go and do it on what is supposed to be a hardcore album! Why can't you get that?? It's advertised as 3 disks of hardcore not 2 disks of hardcore and some other shite because one of the producers doesn't like the music anymore.
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Originally posted by Lorenzo.Tweakn:
people bitch about 1 f***ing disc not being hardcore continously on & on. who ****ing cares! at the end of the day, it's one disc on one album,
the album being more diverse & having drumstep/drum & bass will attract the more "main stream" audience & speed up the process of the genre expanding. "electro-core" expanded the genre alot which also helped out basically everyone. i expect this whole drumstep/d&b to do the same exact thing. maybe it can even help out a genre like "hardcore breaks" which is the hybrid of d&b n uk hardcore.
I'm going to point back to the original concept of a HARDCORE album. If you go to a butchers and ask for 3 steaks and he gives you 2 steaks and a burger you are not going to be happy right? same principle. As for attracting more mainstream audience? Seriously..... Remember how that went not so long ago?
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Thumpa
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Posted - 2013/02/13 : 07:36:37
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Originally posted by djDMS:
Dog shit pizza mate!
*long post deleted, can't be arsed going over the same shit over and over again*
I will just say, Jay has it spot on. My money is just as well spent on a Rebuild or HU album as it is on a CXH one, not following the 'new' sound doesn't make my opinion any less valid. There will be some stuff on the album i love, some i like, some i don't like - just the same as what happens in every other part of my life.
I have never been abused in a supermarket for choosing Corn flakes over rice crispies because i prefer them.
I just want to say that I will never release a whole album of this kind of music, variation is the key! Both Die Another Day and Blood, Sweat & Tears had a lot of breaks on them but I will never solely release any one style.
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DJ-Hutchy
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Posted - 2013/02/13 : 09:19:59
As so many people keep mentioning this & a couple guys have corrected them, but just for me can people please realise that it is DRUMSTEP not ****ing Dubstep!!!
The BPM is a massive giveaway.
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Vladel
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Posted - 2013/02/13 : 09:47:53
It's still not hardcore
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Samination
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Posted - 2013/02/13 : 09:50:49
Trying too add DJ Ham into the equation? That's poor taste, because...
... DJ Ham is not Hamilton (his D&B alias), but Mark Breeze is always Mark Breeze. What I mean is Ham doesn't try to forcefeed us his view on Hardcore. Since he has produced D&B-ish tracks for like forever, he seem to know that D&B already has it's fair share in Hardcore, so when he produces D&B, he ****ing has his Hamilton alias. With Breeze you don't know. Originally Mark Breeze was his trance alias, but now he has that name on everything.
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