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latininxtc
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 Posted - 2013/06/21 : 20:14:03
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I think it's more to do with the location in general, the club is actually really good but the same can't be said for Lloret. I think a major change is needed to boost numbers and a location change is about as big a change as you can get. I'm sure the line up hasn't helped either though.
Another thing that annoys me is that they don't give you set times anymore. Just have to go into the club to see and its pot luck who's playing. Could plan the night so much better if you knew what time everyone was playing.
Dude no offense but UK hardcore ravers aren't the most classy of people, so I find Lloret pretty fitting lol. Y'all remind me of a bunch of drunk college kids who fly off to Cancun for spring break, and I think being in a city with shitloads of bars around and a nice beach with great weather is more than enough to satisfy such a group.
And if they had the numbers I am sure they would be more than willing to find a better location, but where would they go? You know this more than I do, but I personally can't think of any better place to host a weeklong event like this one anywhere else around Spain or another country. You can pick all the other cities along the way and along the coast of where Lloret is and it will be exactly the same.
Clearly the UK beaches and city beaches aren't suitable enough to host such an event or else they would have done so already. And I don't know but I see a lot of you complain about price and stuff so I don't see it being a wise business decision for them to have it in a much nicer place that will drive the cost up when so many of you already bitch about the prices now.
In the end, you're there for the music. It's just added bonus that you get to enjoy it along the coast in sunny weather. It wouldn't be the same feeling if a 7-day event like this was held in the middle of downtown London. I think you're just getting burned out of doing this since this is your 3rd day straight. I know after my second one I would say that's it probably.
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The drunken scotsman
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Posted - 2013/06/23 : 11:30:03
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
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Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
I think it's more to do with the location in general, the club is actually really good but the same can't be said for Lloret. I think a major change is needed to boost numbers and a location change is about as big a change as you can get. I'm sure the line up hasn't helped either though.
Another thing that annoys me is that they don't give you set times anymore. Just have to go into the club to see and its pot luck who's playing. Could plan the night so much better if you knew what time everyone was playing.
Dude no offense but UK hardcore ravers aren't the most classy of people, so I find Lloret pretty fitting lol. Y'all remind me of a bunch of drunk college kids who fly off to Cancun for spring break, and I think being in a city with shitloads of bars around and a nice beach with great weather is more than enough to satisfy such a group.
And if they had the numbers I am sure they would be more than willing to find a better location, but where would they go? You know this more than I do, but I personally can't think of any better place to host a weeklong event like this one anywhere else around Spain or another country. You can pick all the other cities along the way and along the coast of where Lloret is and it will be exactly the same.
Clearly the UK beaches and city beaches aren't suitable enough to host such an event or else they would have done so already. And I don't know but I see a lot of you complain about price and stuff so I don't see it being a wise business decision for them to have it in a much nicer place that will drive the cost up when so many of you already bitch about the prices now.
In the end, you're there for the music. It's just added bonus that you get to enjoy it along the coast in sunny weather. It wouldn't be the same feeling if a 7-day event like this was held in the middle of downtown London. I think you're just getting burned out of doing this since this is your 3rd day straight. I know after my second one I would say that's it probably.
Haha yes you have a good point there. For the record I wouldn't be expecting them to move it to Monaco or some other nice place. Can handle the fact that Lloret is a dump but because I've been here 3 times now its also a boring dump to me. A change of scenery would be nice and I'm sure there are plenty similar resorts in Spain.
You're right that its all about the music though. Nighttime is great but daytime is boring.
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Posted - 2013/06/26 : 13:39:28
Got back last night from HTID In The Slums ;-)
Was a good week overall but not going to lie and say it was amazing, certainly not when I compare it to last years event. Basically everyone I spoke to including veterans who had been to every one said it was the worst yet.
Highlights of the week for me were the 2nd night (Darren Styles, Ben X-Treme and Breeze all playing amazing sets), Gammer night (was always going to be a highlight, great night) and the waterpark party (amazing day out). The atmosphere on closing night was the best I'd seen it all week although I have to say I was slightly dissapointed with Klubfillers closing set.
Noticed a large volume of knob ends attending this year. More interested in getting smashed out their brains every night and spoiling it for others rather than just enjoying the music and having a good time. This scene has always attracted muppets like that although I noticed a lot more this year in Spain.
Most people I spoke to including myself said they wouldn't be back for the whole week next year, possibly do the weekend if it includes the waterpark again but don't think I could do another week in Baghdad.... Sorry lloret ;-)
HTID defintely need to freshen things up a bit. A better plan of action is needed. Better line up and set times on the lanyards would be a start. If they keep going like this I can only see numbers dropping year on year until eventually they can't justify doing it anymore.
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Posted - 2013/06/26 : 16:03:09
Well I'm not surprised considering there were so many factors to it. For one, there was no full-on gabber 2nd room, which I thought was a good and bad thing. Good because it brought more variety into the styles being played, but bad for the gabber heads who go solely for that 2nd room. Personally I find the 2nd all-gabber room to be weak and pathetic considering that internationally gabber is more well-known and appreciated more than UK hardcore, and Gabber has so many large-scale events that focus on that genre (Dominator and Syndicate being 2 of them). I'm surprised there isn't already a 7-day gabber event like that of HTID and Innovation in the sun. Ibiza goes hard is the closest, but that's only like 3-4 days.
Also, the way they set up the lineup was a bit terrible. I may not have been there, but by the looks of it you had the strongest crowd-drawers the first few nights. I think pushing the waterpark party to Saturday was not good. And Sunday being the official closing of the event (not counting the mashup the day after) I thought that lineup was terribly weak. Last year you had Scott Brown, Sy , Fracus & Darwin and Gammer all in the last night. There was no Sy sadly, and nothing against any of the djs the final night but as mentioned I don't consider them to be at the level of the DJs I just mentioned.
Also I think it was an added insult to the gabber fans to have Cally & Juice, a hardstyle duo, in the main room yet I saw no sign of any full-gabber set in the main room. One of my most memorable moments from last year was Joey Riot's closing set for night 6. Half was UK hardcore and the other half was gabber hardcore. I thought he was brilliant and those not a fan of gabber stayed for the most part. Loved the energy during that whole hour! And I feel it would have been a more jampacked dancefloor had they not had Marc Smith closing out the 2nd room at the same time. It sucks that people had to pick and choose between the two.
I think at this point it's not the change of scenery that is the issue, it's to keep the remaining fans interested and to recruit new ones to go next year. They certainly alienated a lot of gabber heads into going to Ibiza Goes Hard, and if they have a smashing time and give some great reviews, then that will certainly hurt the business for HTID ITS.
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Posted - 2013/06/26 : 16:46:46
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Also, the way they set up the lineup was a bit terrible. I may not have been there, but by the looks of it you had the strongest crowd-drawers the first few nights. I think pushing the waterpark party to Saturday was not good. And Sunday being the official closing of the event (not counting the mashup the day after) I thought that lineup was terribly weak. Last year you had Scott Brown, Sy , Fracus & Darwin and Gammer all in the last night. There was no Sy sadly, and nothing against any of the djs the final night but as mentioned I don't consider them to be at the level of the DJs I just mentioned.
Agree 100%
Last year during the week we were undecided if we wanted to come back for this years event. The last night was what swung it for us because it was such a good night. Lots of great sets and sy's closing set was one of the best I've eve heard from him. We were buzzing for about a week after so decided that we needed to go back.
Annoys me how they sell the whole event to you by advertising all the big name dj's, then when you see the lanyard most of them are only playing 1 or 2 sets the whole week, and to see them play another set you have to fork out extra for yacht party or pool party.
I have no idea why they don't give you the set times anymore either. Met a few people who had missed their favourite Dj's because there was no indication of what time they were playing at. Sure you could spend all night in or around collossos but it costs a fortune for drinks in there and gets boring if there's nobody playing that you want to see.
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Posted - 2013/06/26 : 19:55:16
The reason they don't give the set times is to try and keep people in the club more of the time. Before all people did was went down for who they wanted to see which meant the club was dead for a lot of sets. I agree though it's definitely a bad thing, all it means is that you have to guess when people are on and you end up missing sets.
This year was 100% better than last year music wise, but was worse on the whole in my opinion. DJC x2, Joey Riot, Kurt, Marc Smith, Hixxy x2, Breeze, Slipmatt, Gammer x3, Dougal, Chris Fear, Technikore and Shax (possibly the best all week) all played absolutely amazing sets at the main event, the Al Storm foam party set, and Technikore and Gammer at the water park were amazing as well.
That being said, if i'd have paid to go out for the weekend i would have been mega upset, if you don't like Gammer friday could have potentialy been rubbish (i thought it was gonna be the worst, was actually possibly the best), saturday was usa/canada night which was a let down, and then the sunday night line up apart from Technikore was absolutely shocking. It was a good job Chris Fear played probably the second best set of the week.
From speaking to a couple of people "in the know" it's more than likely that next year will be a 3 day weekend event, which to be honest wouldn't be a bad thing.
The only bad thing for me this holiday was the absolute fcuking prick of a guard on the door of the xaine sun appartments, how no one battered the crap out of him is beyond me.
Another amazing week, good people and good times, it never lets me down.
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Posted - 2013/06/26 : 20:32:58
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From speaking to a couple of people "in the know" it's more than likely that next year will be a 3 day weekend event, which to be honest wouldn't be a bad thing.
I think that would be for the better. People can easily do a 3-day weekend rather than a whole week, and the good thing is for those who only buy the 3-day pass you don't have to guess which 3 days are best to go on and risk missing your favorite djs.
But I agree on paper it looked like a great lineup, but once the lineups per night were set, it all seemed misplaced.
And I would like to actually hear the sets for North American night. Last year's was amazing, and they played a ton of stuff that has yet to be heard up to that point. I remember last year we heard Screwface and We Killed the Rave at least once a night, first night I remember hearing We Killed the Rave twice. I was sick of them both by the end of the event
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Posted - 2013/06/26 : 20:52:44
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The reason they don't give the set times is to try and keep people in the club more of the time. Before all people did was went down for who they wanted to see which meant the club was dead for a lot of sets. I agree though it's definitely a bad thing, all it means is that you have to guess when people are on and you end up missing sets.
This year was 100% better than last year music wise, but was worse on the whole in my opinion. DJC x2, Joey Riot, Kurt, Marc Smith, Hixxy x2, Breeze, Slipmatt, Gammer x3, Dougal, Chris Fear, Technikore and Shax (possibly the best all week) all played absolutely amazing sets at the main event, the Al Storm foam party set, and Technikore and Gammer at the water park were amazing as well.
That being said, if i'd have paid to go out for the weekend i would have been mega upset, if you don't like Gammer friday could have potentialy been rubbish (i thought it was gonna be the worst, was actually possibly the best), saturday was usa/canada night which was a let down, and then the sunday night line up apart from Technikore was absolutely shocking. It was a good job Chris Fear played probably the second best set of the week.
From speaking to a couple of people "in the know" it's more than likely that next year will be a 3 day weekend event, which to be honest wouldn't be a bad thing.
The only bad thing for me this holiday was the absolute fcuking prick of a guard on the door of the xaine sun appartments, how no one battered the crap out of him is beyond me.
Another amazing week, good people and good times, it never lets me down.
I think if people aren't fussed about seeing someone they'll leave when they see them coming on anyway. That's just the nature of Htid in the sun, because you can come and go as you please. Seems daft to keep the set times secret for this reason although there can't possibly be any other reason.
How could I forget to mention Dj C's opening set, he was amazing. Has got so much energy behind the decks and got me absolutely buzzing on the first night, great warm up set that was better than the actual kick off set.
Would be a great idea to make it a weekend only event, hopefully this happens. The lineup would be much stronger and they wouldn't have to fill the voids with a load of dj's that nobody is particularly fussed about seeing.
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Posted - 2013/06/26 : 20:52:59
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saturday was usa/canada night which was a let down
Curious what was wrong with it? I'd also be interested to hear the sets. I know US dj's tend to play a fair bit more variety than the UK djs so it doesn't always go down well.
I saw a review of EDC Las Vegas (also this past weekend) and the mainly EDM fanboy reviewer said Rhythmics was playing "happy hardcore like techno" ... so they certainly don't recognize the sound of modern hardcore outside of the scene at all over here.
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Posted - 2013/06/26 : 21:02:56
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And I would like to actually hear the sets for North American night. Last year's was amazing, and they played a ton of stuff that has yet to be heard up to that point. I remember last year we heard Screwface and We Killed the Rave at least once a night, first night I remember hearing We Killed the Rave twice. I was sick of them both by the end of the event
I went out for an hour or so on American night, can't remember who was playing when I was there but a few good tunes got played that I didn't hear any other night, was buzzing to hear Alex Bassjunkie ' rock 2 da rythm' Was a bit different at least. Must of heard 'Knight in shining armour' and 'concrete angel' about 10 times each lol. It's like that every year though, the very first year it was 'come running'
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Posted - 2013/06/26 : 23:34:03
These oceans of text are all very interesting, but there's one big questions:
Jamie, did you get me my Save Me video?!
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the very first year it was 'come running'
I have to say - in a whisper - that I still love it when that gets dropped.
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Posted - 2013/06/27 : 02:08:46
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These oceans of text are all very interesting, but there's one big questions:
Jamie, did you get me my Save Me video?!
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Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
the very first year it was 'come running'
I have to say - in a whisper - that I still love it when that gets dropped.
I still like it too, as cheesy as f**k as it is.
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Posted - 2013/06/27 : 07:08:01
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Originally posted by _Jay_:
These oceans of text are all very interesting, but there's one big questions:
Jamie, did you get me my Save Me video?!
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Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
the very first year it was 'come running'
I have to say - in a whisper - that I still love it when that gets dropped.
Haha sorry mate, got a few vids which il upload to youtube later, but none of save me. Gammer played his acapella version before 'We Killed The Rave' but I didn't have my phone with me that night.
Yeah still love come running, Klubfiller played it at the pool party and the place went nuts. Rip to my sunglasses which are probably the property of a Spanish employee at the waterpark right now because of the mayhem that was caused by this tune getting played!
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Posted - 2013/06/27 : 10:21:23
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I still like it too, as cheesy as f**k as it is.
Yeah, it's a cheese classic, really. I don't think I'll ever play it at home, though. Just like it when it's played and I'm pissed.
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Haha sorry mate, got a few vids which il upload to youtube later, but none of save me. Gammer played his acapella version before 'We Killed The Rave' but I didn't have my phone with me that night.
Ahh not to worry mate. I was only semi-serious really. More just pulling your leg. :-)
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Yeah still love come running, Klubfiller played it at the pool party and the place went nuts. Rip to my sunglasses which are probably the property of a Spanish employee at the waterpark right now because of the mayhem that was caused by this tune getting played!
I bet they find so much stuff at the end of that day!
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Posted - 2013/06/27 : 10:25:38
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Originally posted by HollowRipper:
saturday was usa/canada night which was a let down
Curious what was wrong with it? I'd also be interested to hear the sets. I know US dj's tend to play a fair bit more variety than the UK djs so it doesn't always go down well.
I saw a review of EDC Las Vegas (also this past weekend) and the mainly EDM fanboy reviewer said Rhythmics was playing "happy hardcore like techno" ... so they certainly don't recognize the sound of modern hardcore outside of the scene at all over here.
It costs me a lot of money to pay for me and my better half to go to HTID in the sun. To have one whole night taken up by DJ's that i ordinarily would not bother going to see is, to be honest, a little bit of a cop out on their part. Alright it's never going to be a busy night, but why not use it to give people like DJC, Shax, Last of the Mohicans, Clowny, Nizzle, Jonny G, Reminisce, Nelza, Special K, Shux and a whole host of other people who are absolutely smashing the Uk scene every week without fail, a chance?
I don't know, just something a bit more creative! If i'd have paid for a 3 day pass and one of the nights was that, i'd want my money back. The only reason i went is because 2 of my friends were MC'ing.
DJC is without doubt the future of the UK Hardcore scene. He is literally incredible. The sheer energy he puts into his sets is enough to get every single person on the dancefloor bouncing along with him!
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